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gabrielo
19-11-2010, 04:54 PM
Hello,

I´m planing a bushcraft trip to sweden next year. I will mostly get my food out of the rich rivers and lakes sweden has to offer. But i didn´t had any contact to the craft of fishing yet, so it would be nice if you could give me some advice what to pack in a fishing kit that should be not to heavy and also compact. I´d appreciate it also if you post some pictures of what´s in your fishing kit.
Thanks
gabriel

WoodTroll
20-11-2010, 02:45 PM
What kinds of fish are you going to fish for?

Martin
20-11-2010, 02:50 PM
If you've never fished before, but you're planning to get most of your food out of the 'rich rivers and lakes Sweden has to offer'. I suggest that you drop some bags of food in before you start your trip. The one thing you can almost guarantee is that you will never catch anything when you want or need to, no matter what gear you have. ;)

Martin

gabrielo
20-11-2010, 03:32 PM
What kinds of fish are you going to fish for?

is there such a great variation in the fishing techniques for every single kind of fish? i´m mostly looking for sweet water fishes like the arctic char, selmon or trout.

WoodTroll
20-11-2010, 06:46 PM
is there such a great variation in the fishing techniques for every single kind of fish? i´m mostly looking for sweet water fishes like the arctic char, selmon or trout.

It does vary. Even the time of year can have an effect. If I was wanting to try to catch those three and didn't want to take too many things I would take a section of lures. Toby lures are good. You can cast these up stream and retrive fast - through the big deep pools and mainstream water (that runs fast and deep). Devon Minnow lures are good too. To fish in this way you need a spinning reel. Strong line - at least 10lb breaking strain. A folding landing net will help. A fairly strong short spinning rod and a slection of lures. (Different colours.) You probably don't need a lot else. Hope this helps.

Bernie
30-11-2010, 10:45 PM
For a small and compact fishing kit, I don't think it gets smaller than a hobo handline (aka Poachers Mate). Link to Song of the Paddle forum (http://www.songofthepaddle.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?26356-The-sweetest-handline-you-ever-saw!-(hobo-fishing-wood-porny)). Not sure if this is legal, but a small hook and a worm will very often work if you find the right spot.

Shewie
30-11-2010, 11:00 PM
I'd probably spend some money on a good quality spinning reel and then pair that up with a cheaper telescopic or small take down rod. A good reel is worth the investment whereas a broken rod is only a few quid to replace.
Take a small box of lures that you know will work for your target fish, put a decent line on your reel and you're good to go.

CanadianMike
06-12-2010, 06:37 PM
For a small and compact fishing kit, I don't think it gets smaller than a hobo handline (aka Poachers Mate). Link to Song of the Paddle forum (http://www.songofthepaddle.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?26356-The-sweetest-handline-you-ever-saw!-(hobo-fishing-wood-porny)). Not sure if this is legal, but a small hook and a worm will very often work if you find the right spot.

I noticed you commented in the link, a thought came to mind regarding fitting the cap onto the handle, instead of threads, why not do what is used for bagpipes, get the neck and opening close to the same size, then wrap with thin waxed cord? It'll seal the join well, and hold it together strongly.

andy t
06-10-2011, 07:21 AM
Here's a couple of handlines i started yesterday, i've still got to drill them out, make a stopper, add some kit,line and a lanyard. These are made from sweetchestnut but i will be making some more out of oak, cherry and apple.2597

still water
21-10-2011, 09:51 AM
when i go out i take thishttp://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad280/pete_068/40600400.jpg made from bits and bobs out my fishing gear

ianh
05-01-2012, 05:36 PM
If you've never fished before, but you're planning to get most of your food out of the rivers and lakes.would it not make sence to buy a good travel rod ? they break down to about 600 mm and normal come in a protective case.you can get cheep ones spidercast used to do one which packs away very small but i am not sure if they are still on sale. its the spidercast deluxe travel system

Ben Casey
05-01-2012, 06:56 PM
If you've never fished before, but you're planning to get most of your food out of the rivers and lakes.would it not make sence to buy a good travel rod ? they break down to about 600 mm and normal come in a protective case.you can get cheep ones spidercast used to do one which packs away very small but i am not sure if they are still on sale. its the spidercast deluxe travel system

ALDI and LIDL sell the fold away ones now and again I got some of my stuff there like hooks and stuff it isnt to bad :)

Primerib
11-01-2012, 05:18 PM
There are a lot of products that would suite as travel fishing gear. I just recently got a Balzer Devil Stick with 5-20g casting weight. Don't know if Balzer sells to the UK but they fold down telescopically to 36 cm.

But in your case i would recommend buying a couple of hooks, a few BB splitshot weights and one or two small bobber corks. You can either use that with a handline or cut yourself a branch of hazle or what ever is handy if you need a bit more reach. You can always dig a worm or a grub along the banks of the river or lake. And that will most certainly always get you a perch or a roach. I would not go pro on this straight away! If you don't like fishing afterwards and have spent a lot of money on gear that would be a waste

Pryderi
22-02-2012, 06:36 AM
Here's my Strepsil container based based fishing kit.
The "reel" part is made from duct taped wrapped round a few times topped off with two thick elastic bands to make the lips of the reel and then covered in a short piece of inner tube. I found this casts well even better than a hobo line I bought off ebay.

3884

Primerib
22-02-2012, 03:24 PM
hey,
that looks pretty cool! I have just remembered from my days when i lived in australia for a while that we used to have these handcaster lines!
http://www.fieldandstreamaustralia.com.au/shop/images/hand%20caster.jpg
You can get these as small as 10cm diameter which will fit basically any pack! We used these a lot and with a bit of weight they cast really far! With a sinking rig oder with a float both will work! Unfortunately these haven't much spread to the rest of the world. Luckily i still have two of my old ones in the basement. :happy-clapping:

The usually only cost 2-5 bucks! Aussies use these a lot from peers or boats without. On boats they can be very handy coz you have to handle long rods.

Pryderi
23-02-2012, 08:34 AM
I have something similar to your aussie handline. Got it off ebay last year. I 've seen them referred to as cub an reels on youtube. Not used mine yet

David_JAFO
23-10-2012, 08:15 PM
hello,
I'd take along what rod I had that I am used to, then check out the local tackle shops.
'Local Knowledge' is your best bet, ask around what's available once you get there
bait,tackle etc.. you might even find you can hire a rod/rig for the day.
I was sent this link which might be of interest?
http://www.acc.umu.se/~widmark/lwfishxl.html
Good luck anyway :wink:
Regards
David

Hello,
I´m planing a bushcraft trip to sweden next year. I will mostly get my food out of the rich rivers and lakes sweden has to offer. But i didn´t had any contact to the craft of fishing yet, so it would be nice if you could give me some advice what to pack in a fishing kit that should be not to heavy and also compact. I´d appreciate it also if you post some pictures of what´s in your fishing kit.
Thanks
gabriel

fish
23-10-2012, 08:56 PM
telescopic spinning rod and a variety of devon minnows and mepps.

fish
23-10-2012, 08:59 PM
The one thing you can almost guarantee is that you will never catch anything when you want or need to, no matter what gear you have. ;)
Martin

speak for yerself mate!lol

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/fishfish_01/fish/DSC00895.jpg

alvino78
31-10-2012, 12:42 AM
Here's a couple of handlines i started yesterday, i've still got to drill them out, make a stopper, add some kit,line and a lanyard. These are made from sweetchestnut but i will be making some more out of oak, cherry and apple.2597

extra gorgeously nice!!!!!! very jealous!!!T^

David_JAFO
31-10-2012, 06:48 AM
hello,
Absolutely brilliant workmanship there Andy.
T^
Regards
David
[QUOTE=andy t;24955]Here's a couple of handlines i started yesterday,
i've still got to drill them out, make a stopper, add some kit,line and a lanyard.
These are made from sweetchestnut but i will be making some more out of oak,
cherry and apple.

andy t
02-11-2012, 07:24 AM
Thanks David.

surplus 6
01-01-2013, 07:54 PM
I need to get myself a lathe and try and make one od those, andyt has started. unless he makes them to sell or trade

Tommy
12-04-2013, 06:15 AM
Hi Gabrielo

You have been given some good advice from some obviously experience fishermen. However at the risk of people getting angry with me, I'm going to recommended that you take your money to Sweden and talk to the locals. Buy what they use and use it the way they tell you.

My reasoning can be summed up by, the locals know best.

I have over 40 years experience and I have been a guide and I would ask the locals for help.

David_JAFO
12-04-2013, 11:52 AM
hello,
True.. local knowledge is always best :wink:
Regards
David
T^


Hi Gabrielo

You have been given some good advice from some obviously experience fishermen. However at the risk of people getting angry with me, I'm going to recommended that you take your money to Sweden and talk to the locals. Buy what they use and use it the way they tell you.

My reasoning can be summed up by, the locals know best.

I have over 40 years experience and I have been a guide and I would ask the locals for help.

Tommy
12-04-2013, 02:57 PM
Last night when I made my post it was late and I was tired so I missed David's first post.


hello,
I'd take along what rod I had that I am used to, then check out the local tackle shops.
'Local Knowledge' is your best bet, ask around what's available once you get there
bait,tackle etc.. you might even find you can hire a rod/rig for the day.
I was sent this link which might be of interest?
http://www.acc.umu.se/~widmark/lwfishxl.html
Good luck anyway :wink:
Regards
David


I should have just just quoted him and said “this”. So my post is rather redundant now.

Anyway, is there anyone here from Sweden or any of the Scandinavian countries who is a fisherman? I think it would be interesting to read what he/she has to say. I'd like to know if the Rapala lure (made in Finland) is popular there? Rapala lures are very popular here in Canada.

roberts
04-08-2013, 10:03 AM
I have often wanted to have one of these kits I have handlined before but the line was just wrapped round a coke can but would love to have something more substantial for re using the wooden handles look great

ian c
04-08-2013, 11:22 PM
I have a 5 piece rod spinning rod and a spinning reel that I have had over 10 years I have with it mepps spinners, toby lures, quite a few hooks of different sizes with some barrel weights of different sizes and swivels, with this lot I have fished the UK, Cyprus, Canada, Falklands, Kenya and many other places I like fishing and speak to the locals when I want to fish somewhere that I have never fished before, then if needed I will purchase what they recommend, but lucky me I have have only had to buy new lures ect oh and my reel is loaded with braid.

chris67
13-08-2013, 01:00 PM
Would braid be any good on a hobo reel Ian?

ian c
13-08-2013, 09:22 PM
Hi chris I would not use braid as a hand line as it is very good at cutting into the skin also when it knots up it is very difficult to undo, I have a small spool of 10lb nylon fishing line in my kit that I use for hook lengths and can be used for a hand line if I need to, hope this helps.

CanadianMike
14-08-2013, 02:21 PM
At least with braid there is no worry about it having 'spool memory', braid is all I've used past few years. But yes, it will cut you if enough pressure and line movement over your skin. I think fluorocarbon line is limp with less spool memory. Also, it has the same light refraction as water does, so the line under water is almost invisible.

OakAshandThorn
14-08-2013, 05:56 PM
Those of use who mainly fly fish (I haven't picked up my spinning reel in years) are at a bit of a disadvantage when it comes to a 'compact' kit - I could be wrong, but I haven't seen any designs out there for fly fishing, and I haven't the brilliance of mind to create one :(.

andy t
14-08-2013, 07:05 PM
i will be making a few more of these in the next few days if anyones interested........if you need anymore info on them ask ash i sent him one.

CanadianMike
14-08-2013, 08:30 PM
Those of use who mainly fly fish (I haven't picked up my spinning reel in years) are at a bit of a disadvantage when it comes to a 'compact' kit - I could be wrong, but I haven't seen any designs out there for fly fishing, and I haven't the brilliance of mind to create one :(.

At least the lures pack up smaller. Lol

OakAshandThorn
14-08-2013, 08:35 PM
At least the lures pack up smaller. Lol
I have about 25 flies in a normal-sized Altoids tin, and I could easily fit another 25 ;)