bin laden is dead yipeeeeeeeee

[swkieran]

Osama bin Laden, the leader of al-Qaeda, is dead.

US president Barack Obama said bin Laden, the most-wanted fugitive on the US list, has been killed on Sunday in a US operation in the Pakistani city of Abbottabad, about 150km north of Islamabad.

"Tonight, I can report to the people of the United States and the world, the United States had carried an operation that has killed Osama Bin Laden, a terrorist responsible for killing thousands of innocent people," Obama said in a statement.

"Today, at my direction, the United States carried out that operation... they killed Osama Bin Laden and took custody of his body.

"The death of Bin Laden marks the most significant achievement to date against Al Qaeda.

"We must also reaffirm that United states is not and will never be at war against Islam. Bin Laden was not a Muslim leader, in fact, he slaughtered many Muslims," Obama said.

A US source told the Reuters news agency that bin Laden had been killed in a house outside Islamabad in a US operation. His body is apparently in the possession of the US

[ANDYRAF]

Damn! He owed me a fiver.

[comanighttrain]

Islamabad? you mean Islington?

[happybonzo]

The hot rumour is that he has been dead for a bit longer than claimed and that the reason was that the Americans wanted to carry out DNA tests to be sure that they had the right man.
I don't suppose that it will make much difference as it this is a bit like cutting of the head of the Hydra.
Good drills though :)

[Ben Casey]

Let us not forget the many service people in all wars past and present that have lost there lives. Also let us not forget all the Service people that have been lost in peacetime activity. But let us also not forget that our politicians have armed all these people that we now fight. If it was not for the politicians a lot of the wars and death we now have could be avoided.
Ben

[comanighttrain]

Elton John is already working on a tribute song - Sandals in the Bin

[freedom]

He has binhad off anhe

[comanighttrain]

I didnt know they did bins on bank holidays

[bigzee]

Well that's an annoying bit of s**t finally off everyone's shoe, however I daresay a man with that level of intellect and cunning would have one or two contingency plans up his sleeve for just such an ocassion. His mates open the packet containing his recording: "Hello if you'r watching this it means I have been assassinated by the infidels. What I want you to do now is this......" etc.

[Realbark]

Bin Laden: Turbanated





BTW, I killed Colonel Gaddafi last night. I didn't take any pictures and threw his body into the sea. Just take my word for it; he's definitely dead.

[happybonzo]

The hot rumour is that he has been dead for a bit longer than claimed and that the reason was that the Americans wanted to carry out DNA tests to be sure that they had the right man.


Seems that I may have right http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20110502/twl-obama-s-officials-confirm-bin-laden-41f21e0.html

[J_P]

Yeah the americans had his sisters brain as a DNA sample!! go figure... well dont get to excited as the saying goes you kill one fox and 2 come to its funeral..

[bigzee]

Bin Laden: Turbanated





BTW, I killed Colonel Gaddafi last night. I didn't take any pictures and threw his body into the sea. Just take my word for it; he's definitely dead.
When you went to kill him, did he throw some schoolchildren or a couple of olds nuns in front as a human shield - thus destroying any remains of a reputation he had with his followers? By the way I hope you lobbed his sorry corpse a long way out. I don't want it bobbing up on the beach at Mogg's eye while I'm there with the family!

[Humakt]

It was an absolute inevitability that he had to be taken out.
However, it's a shame that so many seem to glee in the death of another person. Oh yeah, he had it coming, and it's hard to see how it could have ended any other way. But let's not take pleasure in the death of someone, no matter who, or else we look just as barbaric as all those others who take pleasure in wanton killing.
Let's have a little decorum and regret that it had to come to this, even if we acknowledge the inevitablility of it. Let's be better than those who take pleasure in killing.
And let's also not forget that we are supporting governments who openly use assassination techniques - a tactic that we otherwise deplore in certain other parts of the world. I thought we were supposed to be be better than that.
Some people are reacting to this whole affair too simple-mindedly. Let's be better than those who enjoy killing by showing an element of regret and remorse rather than pleasure at the killing of someone, no matter who, and no matter what they'd done. Let's rise above that and have the courgae of our convictions.

[Edwin]

The question is whether one has to have a sovereign state in order to have a proper war with it or can one have a legal war with an organisation? If one can then this was an act of war, he was too difficult to take prisoner so his death was justified. In the same way that prisoners captured from the ranks of his organisation can be held until the war is settled. After all we didn't free all POWs until, I think, 1948 and there are legal precedents that surrenders do not have to be taken if circumstances make it difficult, eg soldiers trying to surrender to helicopters.

[Martin]

Humakt, thank you for that. I couldn't have put my feelings any better or more succinctly than that.

Martin

[bigzee]

Yes it did strike me as very bizarre to watch the unprecedented scenes of world leaders expressing their joy at the deliberate targetting and "taking out" of one person. I seem to remember that the suits were keen to dismiss this kind of assasination of leaders as acceptable protocol during the gulf war(?). Having said that, one family mourn this way not the many from the deaths of a thousand "foot soldiers" as in conventional warfare.

Also slightly amusing to hear the Americans' account of how they shot "in self-defence", having first flown uninvited over foreign soil and dropped from a helicopter gunship to flash-bang their way through the door of a domestic residence scattering rubble over the occupants' cornflake bowls! I offer no defence or sympathy to Osama Bin-Laden - I leave that to karma, but what I do ask: is Obama sin-laden?

[swkieran]

Humakt all thou i do agree with you in some respects,and here comes the but.I think the elite united states seal team 6,did the world a justice in ridding it of a monsterious lunatic,who has the blood of millions on his hands including many of our brave service men and women,he was also the catalyst for 7/7. and if he could he would of taken over western civilisation's and opposed his vile and brutal ideolgy just like he imposed it on decent people in alfghanistan.I dont have much sympathy it was either us or him,he signed his death warrant on september the 11th 2001.

[Humakt]

Humakt all thou i do agree with you in some respects,and here comes the but.I think the elite united states seal team 6,did the world a justice in ridding it of a monsterious lunatic,who has the blood of millions on his hands including many of our brave service men and women,he was also the catalyst for 7/7. and if he could he would of taken over western civilisation's and opposed his vile and brutal ideolgy just like he imposed it on decent people in alfghanistan.I dont have much sympathy it was either us or him,he signed his death warrant on september the 11th 2001.

You're absolutely correct and I agree with you 100%. I have no sympathy for his parting either.
That wasn't the point of my post.
I was saying that we shold not take joy (e.g. 'bin laden is dead yipeeeeee') in someone's death and if this had to to happen (as it probably did) then we should act with restraint, decorum, regret and remorse that it did have to come to the death of another person. Because if we take joy in his death then we are no (morally) better than him taking joy in the death of others. That was my point.

[Martin]

You're absolutely correct and I agree with you 100%. I have no sympathy for his parting either.
That wasn't the point of my post.
I was saying that we shold not take joy (e.g. 'bin laden is dead yipeeeeee') in someone's death and if this had to to happen (as it probably did) then we should act with restraint, decorum, regret and remorse that it did have to come to the death of another person. Because if we take joy in his death then we are no (morally) better than him taking joy in the death of others. That was my point.

Precisely.

Martin

[swkieran]

i wasnt rejoicing in his death as such,i was very very happy that at last justice had been served,next its Ayman al-Zawahiri,mr bin laden has learnt a lesson much in the same way as other tyrants have,i.e adolf hitler etc,lesson number 1,dont pick a fight with the good people of america,britain and canada many of which came from british shores,a little insight as to what kind of people were made up from,celts,angles,saxons,jutes,danes other nordic peoples,romans,picts and french normans.we are peace loving people until we are riled,no one will ever break our resolve and our willpower:).you can run but youll never hide from our justice as we have just demonstrated with a fantastic and daring raid :).we acted with restraint,decorum, and dignity by affording him with a muslim funeral service,not many countrys or people would have done so.

[jbrown14]

Very well said, swkieran. The real heroes are the ones who do the job with quiet dignity and ask no praise in return.
Bin Laden deserved to be buried under a pig farm (but the pigs didn't deserve that...), but better men than I decided that his body should be treated with some respect. I think they gave him more than he deserved in their acquiescence to Islam, but in reality; it's just a body and what they did with it mattered very little. Bin Laden got his just desserts in the end.

[swkieran]

thank you josh:),i think barrack obama has handled the whole thing with restraint and above all dignity on everybodys behalf.Also i have a few muslim friends who are glad to see the back of mr bin laden,because they got the backlash of 9/11,and all they want to do is live in peace and harmony with people here and get on with there lives and work hard there 2 sons are as english (british) as me.

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