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Metal mug
11-11-2011, 05:14 PM
The army Trangia, a great piece of kit. But there is a bit of debate over which is better, steel or aluminium? So I thought i'd do a little review on both types



Weight.

Steel) 1300 Grams

Aluminium) 1200 Grams

When these cooksets were weighed I keep it pretty minimal what was in them. There was the pans and windshield, a empty burner, a full bottle of meths and a steel striker. I used the same bottle burner and striker to give fair weight comparisons. I was expecting a bigger difference between the two.



Boiling times


I used the same army burner in these tests to give an accurate boiling time. In each test I filled the burner, lit it and waited for it to warm up before putting the pot on. The tests were carried out in ideal conditions - in my fireplace. :)


The pot)

I filled each pot with 700ml of cold tap water (half full) and then timed how long it took to reach a rolling boil.

The steel pot boiled in 10 mins 35 seconds

The aluminium pot boiled in 10 mins 20 seconds

This surprised me as I was expecting the aluminium pot to be faster. I then noticed that the steel pot is about half the thickness of the aluiminium pot, which explains the times.




The lid or frying pan)

I find the lid great for boiling water for a brew up so I measured out 450ml of water (the average amount I use for a drink) in each lid and did the same test as above.

The steel lid boiled in 6 mins 31 seconds

The aluminium lid boiled in 7 mins 42 seconds

Again quite a surprise as the steel beat the ali lid by over a minute to a rolling boil.



Hexamine boiling Sometimes if I want a hot drink and I can't be bothered to wait for the Trangia stove to warm up i'll use a hexamine tablet instead. The great thing about the army trangia is you can use more than one cooking system in the windshield. Although not at the same time! :D In this case I used the lids again with the same amount of cold tap water in them (450mls). I lit the tablet on a bit of folded tin foil in the windshield and let it get to a full burn before I put the lid on.


The steel lid boiled in 5 minutes 24 seconds

The aluminium lid boiled in 6 minutes 9 seconds.

A pretty good time for the steel.



The steel

Pros) They are easier to clean the the aluminium sets. Also in the long term they are less likely to warp when it comes to regular use on fires.

Cons) They are heavyier and are more expensive


The Aluminium


Pros) They are lighter, cheaper, and tend to be newer than the steel ones.

Cons) They are hard to clean.



Summary


Well in summary you can't go too wrong. I have to say though my preferance is for the steel. The army trangia is a great set as many bushcrafters will know. I would also advise in buying a pot lifter or carrying round an old glove to pick the pots up with as the handles can get very hot. Also read Jakobs review of the set here (post #11) http://www.naturalbushcraft.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?1358-Swedish-Army-Trangia/page2&highlight=army+trangia

Anyway I'll let you decide which you prefer. Happy cooking!


Jack

JEEP
11-11-2011, 05:35 PM
Excellent comparison T^

Ben Casey
11-11-2011, 06:13 PM
Cool :)

Martin
11-11-2011, 06:54 PM
Great report Jack. Thanks for taking the time to do it and to report back. :)

Martin

luresalive
11-11-2011, 07:29 PM
Thats a good review, very well done.

markal17
11-11-2011, 07:38 PM
iv got the steel so it seams iv got the right cook kit

jus_young
11-11-2011, 07:43 PM
Cheers Jack. This was another bit of kit that I was thinking about. I have the regular 27 and having read this review along with Jakobs, I don't think I will bother any more and stick with what I have.

Save some pennies for a Honey Stove instead :D

rossbird
11-11-2011, 08:16 PM
That's a good comparison Jack. I have to say I am surprised steel compared so well in boiling times, just goes to show how presumptions can be wrong.
I'm not clear why you think steel is less likely to warp?

cuppa joe
11-11-2011, 08:21 PM
Great comparison...I have an ally one but have always wanted a stainless steel one...no reason other than preference.

Metal mug
12-11-2011, 12:32 PM
That's a good comparison Jack. I have to say I am surprised steel compared so well in boiling times, just goes to show how presumptions can be wrong.
I'm not clear why you think steel is less likely to warp? Yeah I was surprised the times, I thought that the aluminium would be quite a bit faster than the steel. Oh and about the warping, I found that over time using the alli lid on hot coals has slightly 'dented' in the lid. I mean it's not terrible damage but I thought I should mention it.

rich290185
12-11-2011, 09:46 PM
great report, i have a steel one cant fault it!

El
13-04-2012, 08:17 PM
Great review..
Newbie question..
I just bought the steel one..and its in A1 condition..still to use it yet, but one thing I have thought about, the green paint on it...do you guys leave the paint on or remove it ? thinking of when the small pan is used with the bigger pan , is there a chance of the paint tainting the food ?

cuppa joe
13-04-2012, 08:46 PM
I bought a steel one also based on this post ...sold my ally one now ...though heavy its a bomb proof option if needed.

happybonzo
14-04-2012, 09:23 AM
My main concerns have been about using any aluminium pan for cooking. There does seem to be some links between using aluminium utensils and loosing one's marbles

Having said that, I have managed to beat my ali pans back into a usable shape when they've been trodden on. I would expect the steel pans to be beyond salvaging as they'll crack when reshaped

Metal mug
14-04-2012, 08:16 PM
Great review..
Newbie question..
I just bought the steel one..and its in A1 condition..still to use it yet, but one thing I have thought about, the green paint on it...do you guys leave the paint on or remove it ? thinking of when the small pan is used with the bigger pan , is there a chance of the paint tainting the food ?This was a concern of mine. All I can say is if you use the pans on a fire a few times the paint seems to just wear off.