NEW! Primus OmniLite TI

[JEEP]

http://www.tgomagazine.co.uk/news/gearnews/the-primus-omnilite-ti-stove-exclusive-first-review

http://www.ukclimbing.com/gear/news.php?id=3976

A new lighter and smaller version of the legendary Primus Omni Fuel multifuel stove - in titanium!

It will be expensive - but I will be getting one :ashamed:

[Fletching]

£175? Wow!

Mmmm, do I really need one, now that you've shown it to me Jakob?

...do I really need to answer that question? :ashamed:

Steve

[Ashley Cawley]

lol - looks light & powerful!.. but I'll stick with my cheaper solutions ;)

Christmas is over don't you know Steve? :p

Thanks for the heads'up Jakob.

[Ben Casey]

Nice but a bit out of my range at the min :(

[JEEP]

£175? Wow!

Mmmm, do I really need one, now that you've shown it to me Jakob?

...do I really need to answer that question? :ashamed:

Steve

I will get one as soon as it hits the market - and I will review it here.... :evilgrin:

[Fletching]

Christmas is over don't you know Steve? :p

You're right Ash. And I'm trying to save up to buy a canal boat shell to do up. :)

[Martin]

Sorry guys, at 544 grams plus fuel this is not a light weight option. I'm sure you can cut down on some of the weight by leaving the maintenance tool, the heat reflector and the wind shield at home but why would you when you spend that much on a stove.

Still, very interested to see what Jakob makes of this.

Martin

[JEEP]

For a multi fuel stove, it is very lightweight actually.

Multi fuel stoves are very fuel efficient, when running on white gas or kerosene. For shorter trips, a top mounted butane/propane stove or a lighweight meths stove are certainly the most lightweight options, but both use quite a lot of fuel, which will have to be carried.
At some point the multi fuel stoves becomes the lighter option, due to the lesser amount of fuel you need to carry. One could argue that a small wood burning stove is even lighter, but it is dependent on whether you are able to find dry fuel for it.

Another great thing about a multi fuel stove is that it will function under almost any imaginable conditions, while boths butane/propane and meths stoves are highly sensitive to temperature, wind and, for butane/propane stoves, the oxygen content of the air around you - the higher you are up, the less chance there is for your putane/propane stove to function.
Availability of fuel and the price of it is yet another thing; white gas and kerosene are a lot cheaper than butane/propane cartridges - and somewhat cheaper then meths as well (at least here in Denmark). Butane/propane cartridges does not follow a single standard around the World (there are at least three different types) and in some countries they are not available at all - meths are generally available, but suprisingly hard to come by in a few countries. But, you will always be able to finde something to burn in you multi fule stove, as long as there are people in the vicinity.

I prefer to bring my multi fuel stoves on shorter trips, for the very same reason I prefer to start my fires with a firesteel, in stead of with a lighter; to familiarise myself with the techniques, learn the in's and out's of my gear and discover any faults, before I end up in a situation where I am dependend on the skills/gear.
Just today I read a review of a Optimus Hiker+ multi fuel stove. The reviewer had bought it, filled it with fuel and ventured, without testing the stove, out for a hunting trip into the Canadian winter. The stove turned out to be deficient! Unable to light a fire in the wind and snow, the reviewer, wisely, ended up cutting his trip short going home for a hot meal - luckily for him he had that option!

[bigzee]

Sorry guys, at 544 grams plus fuel this is not a light weight option. I'm sure you can cut down on some of the weight by leaving the maintenance tool, the heat reflector and the wind shield at home but why would you when you spend that much on a stove.

Still, very interested to see what Jakob makes of this.

Martin
As I recall one of my first pop can stove burners weighed in at 55 grams. Although nowhere near as versatile, and nowhere near as SHINY!!!

[Metal mug]

£175? Wow!


Nice but a bit out of my range at the min :(I'm waiting for the lightweight solid gold version to come out. :)

[lucky 67]

i ordered one will be arriving ontuesday

[treefrog]

I'll be interested to see the review on this. I have two single burner coleman stoves, one of which I've had for 30 years. They both work
well and reliably, but they're a little heavier and more bulky than the new types...So, I bought an Optimus Nova+ and tried it out on a canoe
trip, where I learned that....Coleman stoves rule! My one and only first hand experience with a temperamental, dinky little multi-fuel stove
was not an enjoyable one. I returned it to MEC and got a full refund.
As a general rule, the campfire is choice 1 for cooking, but I like the stove when sometimes you stop mid-day after a long portage and need
a cup of caffiene quick and easy. Also there are rare times (usually in August) when the forest fire risk is high and a campfire ban is on in
some provincial parks, so to do backcountry camping they require you to have a stove.
I'd consider trying another of this type of stove, but it would need some glowing reviews.

Jack

[lucky 67]

if time permits me i certainly will review this stove here on the forum,
just need some time tough ,

[lucky 67]

i did use a msr dragonfly. great stove but to big
this one is lighter and more compact for sure
more to follow when the stove arrives on tuesday

[JEEP]

Cool, we'll be looking forward to that.

[Adam Savage]

I must lean toward Martins comment. Although it is very light for a multi fuel stove, it is still a lot heavier than a trangia burner, or a lightweight gas tove, inside a hobo stove.

Probably more reliable in colder climbs, but in our temperate little country, it's a bit of an overkill :).

Doesn't stop me wanting one though lol.

[Martin]

Kieran and Tyler from RuralSurival popped round to my house today to look at a few stoves. We dug out the hong kong Primus/MSR Dragonfly rip off and I was impressed at how good a stove this still is. Fired up with panel wipe as the fuel and it roared away.

http://www.3acyber.com/eBay/2107-1.jpg

I know it's a heavy old thing, relative to a lightweight gas stove or a meths stove, but I've still got a soft spot for this stove.

Martin

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Camping-Multi-fuel-Oil-Gas-Cook-Ware-Stove-bottle-Gear-/130564628411?pt=UK_SportingGoods_Camping_CookingSu pplies_ET&hash=item1e66421fbb#ht_9450wt_956

[Kieran]

Kieran and Tyler from RuralSurival popped round to my house today to look at a few stoves. We dug out the hong kong Primus/MSR Dragonfly rip off and I was impressed at how good a stove this still is. Fired up with panel wipe as the fuel and it roared away.

http://www.3acyber.com/eBay/2107-1.jpg

I know it's a heavy old thing, relative to a lightweight gas stove or a meths stove, but I've still got a soft spot for this stove.

Martin

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Camping-Multi-fuel-Oil-Gas-Cook-Ware-Stove-bottle-Gear-/130564628411?pt=UK_SportingGoods_Camping_CookingSu pplies_ET&hash=item1e66421fbb#ht_9450wt_956


It is superb! I can't say much else.

[lucky 67]

Kieran and Tyler from RuralSurival popped round to my house today to look at a few stoves. We dug out the hong kong Primus/MSR Dragonfly rip off and I was impressed at how good a stove this still is. Fired up with panel wipe as the fuel and it roared away.

http://www.3acyber.com/eBay/2107-1.jpg

I know it's a heavy old thing, relative to a lightweight gas stove or a meths stove, but I've still got a soft spot for this stove.

Martin

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Camping-Multi-fuel-Oil-Gas-Cook-Ware-Stove-bottle-Gear-/130564628411?pt=UK_SportingGoods_Camping_CookingSu pplies_ET&hash=item1e66421fbb#ht_9450wt_956

looking good,probably folds it more compact,perhaps the most important drawback for me personally will be the availability of changingparts for maintenance.
msr and primus are among the biggest on the market worldwide,the same for by example snow-peak,its even lighter as the omnilite-ti,but not so available,
and not a multifuel stove also.

[Martin]

Lucky67, the legs fold in to make it more compact for storage. You could be right about the spare parts but, for the price, it's cheaper to buy another stove or two than to buy one MSR or Primus stove.

Martin

[RobbC]

Kieran and Tyler from RuralSurival popped round to my house today to look at a few stoves. We dug out the hong kong Primus/MSR Dragonfly rip off and I was impressed at how good a stove this still is. Fired up with panel wipe as the fuel and it roared away.

http://www.3acyber.com/eBay/2107-1.jpg

I know it's a heavy old thing, relative to a lightweight gas stove or a meths stove, but I've still got a soft spot for this stove.

Martin

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Camping-Multi-fuel-Oil-Gas-Cook-Ware-Stove-bottle-Gear-/130564628411?pt=UK_SportingGoods_Camping_CookingSu pplies_ET&hash=item1e66421fbb#ht_9450wt_956
I really like the look of that stove. I may get myself one :D

Robb

[lucky 67]

Lucky67, the legs fold in to make it more compact for storage. You could be right about the spare parts but, for the price, it's cheaper to buy another stove or two than to buy one MSR or Primus stove.

Martin

yes,you might have a point,i think the omnilite-ti is one of the most expensive stoves available,but i sold some gear,
including the msr dragonfly,to buy this stove because of his specs,especially the light weight,for me this is important,
because we are backpacking on high altitudes in the alps each year.
i brought my packweight down from 20+kg 75 ltr backpack,to a 12-13kg 50 ltr backpack.

[lucky 67]

okay guys,here are some first experiences of the primus omnilite TI,boiling time for 1 ltr water is remarkably faster than mine old msr dragonfly,i didnt time it exactly tough,just observed it.
didnt used the heathreflector and windscreen,used pot is a vargo titanium 1.3ltr with lid.the flame is more centered under it because the smaller build of the burner,maybe thats why it cooks faster.
the burner fits in the pot so i saved much more volume in my backpack,also the weight is remarkbly less than the dragonfly,burnerweight is 219 grams.have to get used to turn the fuelbottle
on time to turn the burner off,because this will save fuel,for now i am not sure if the fuelconsumption is less than the dragonfly,but i exped so.i like this system because there is no pressure in the fuelbottle
left,also the pump is more rigid than the MSR,works better also,very light to pump the pressure.
overall i like this primus a lot more over my old MSR dragonfly,its more compact,lighter,fits smaller pots also,something which didnt go with the MSR,more high tech,more rigid fuelpump,
i am impressed.for now i want to know more about the fuelconsumption,so i have to time the cookingtime and messure the fuelbottle.

grtz,jurgen.

[garethw]

Kieran and Tyler from RuralSurival popped round to my house today to look at a few stoves. We dug out the hong kong Primus/MSR Dragonfly rip off and I was impressed at how good a stove this still is. Fired up with panel wipe as the fuel and it roared away.

http://www.3acyber.com/eBay/2107-1.jpg

I know it's a heavy old thing, relative to a lightweight gas stove or a meths stove, but I've still got a soft spot for this stove.

Martin

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Camping-Multi-fuel-Oil-Gas-Cook-Ware-Stove-bottle-Gear-/130564628411?pt=UK_SportingGoods_Camping_CookingSu pplies_ET&hash=item1e66421fbb#ht_9450wt_956

Hi there
There's a post on a French Survival forum about the quality control of these stoves and them leaking and catching fire. Some of the guys say theu are great others say they binned it after one trip... The weak point seems to be the hose from the bottle... Worth checking it thoroughly before using in ernest.
Cheers
Gareth

[lucky 67]

please,can you place the link here,i can not find it,thanks in advance.

grtz,jurgen.