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SwissGearLabs
15-01-2012, 03:31 PM
am working on a hammock so I am well insulated (from the cloth side) and so that I can lay flat and horizontal.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4PXmfyjbk8

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Ben Casey
15-01-2012, 06:52 PM
A cool idea there and cant wait for updates :)

paul standley
15-01-2012, 07:30 PM
Nice idea, be sure to share version 2 with us when you get there... this vid led me on to a search of "bridge hammocks" on you tube which I think I like better than my own diy gathered edge hammock so will be looking to make a diy bridge type in the spring.

Wrighty28
15-01-2012, 08:32 PM
looks good! - next generation of hammock technology right there?

GwersyllaCnau
15-01-2012, 08:46 PM
Nice idea, be sure to share version 2 with us when you get there... this vid led me on to a search of "bridge hammocks" on you tube which I think I like better than my own diy gathered edge hammock so will be looking to make a diy bridge type in the spring.

Please correct me if I'm wrong (which is highly probable). My understanding is that you get a flatter lay in a gathered end hammock than a bridge hammock..... BTW, How are you Paul, we'll have to meet up again and get out sometime, as long as you don't mind my 9 year old son coming.

happybonzo
16-01-2012, 06:11 AM
As Emerson said
"If a man can write a better book, preach a better sermon, or make a better mousetrap, than his neighbor, though he build his house in the woods, the world will make a beaten path to his door." or something like that - great work

jus_young
16-01-2012, 08:56 AM
I like the concept here. Maybe something for version two - a web of some kind at the foot end to stop your feet migrating over the end of the hammock and getting cold. I found with my first experiences with hammocks is that you always seem to work your way downwards and end up without anything under your feet to keep them warm. Got to learn how to adjust things for next time like just how much I need to increase the height at one end...

Dan XF
16-01-2012, 09:04 AM
When I started training as a paramedic we still used stretcher canvases with poles to move patients from one bed to another. You could put two sleeves down the side and use light alloy tent poles to give more rigidity and then use a thinner lighter foam mat that you could leave to self inflate without having to blow into. Try looking at a big wall portaledge. These are the climber's hammocks they use for lying flat on a cliff face. Similar principle but not a hand sewn masterpiece. Also may I add that your English grammar is fantastic, better than mine.

Martin
16-01-2012, 12:00 PM
Looks very comfy indeed. I was wondering how you would hang a tarp over that??

Martin

SwissGearLabs
16-01-2012, 05:05 PM
...a web of some kind at the foot end to stop your feet migrating over the end of the hammock and getting cold...

good thinking, yes, I will just have some excess cloth on both sides. Thus creating some kind of, say, bag for your feet and some barrier so your cushion doesn't fall of the head end...

luresalive
16-01-2012, 05:10 PM
It's a good idea, but when you lie on your side, your back will still get cold surely???

SwissGearLabs
16-01-2012, 05:11 PM
When I started training as a paramedic we still used stretcher canvases with poles to move patients from one bed to another. You could put two sleeves down the side and use light alloy tent poles to give more rigidity and then use a thinner lighter foam mat that you could leave to self inflate without having to blow into. Try looking at a big wall portaledge. These are the climber's hammocks they use for lying flat on a cliff face. Similar principle but not a hand sewn masterpiece. Also may I add that your English grammar is fantastic, better than mine.

thanks for the great info! on YT a guy suggested along those lines (if i understand correctly), i.e. to use walking sticks to add rigidity to the system (when they're placed smartly even a lot of it).

PS: thanks for the english compliment, trying my best

SwissGearLabs
16-01-2012, 05:13 PM
Looks very comfy indeed. I was wondering how you would hang a tarp over that??

Martin

The tarp is used "diagonally". 9x9ft seems ok but I'll go for a dedicated one with "flaps" to "close the door".... probably doesn't make sense (will make a vid)

SwissGearLabs
16-01-2012, 05:17 PM
It's a good idea, but when you lie on your side, your back will still get cold surely???

yes, without sleeping bag it will. at night, i'll always use a sleeping bag or blanket. the main problem is the very area you're lying on, because without the isomat, your bag/blanket will get compressed and loose its insulation power.

instead of using the isomat solution, so called underquilts are used (they are quite widespread). I do not really like them because i move a lot during my sleep and that often causes the quilt to move partly away from the hammock and thus loosing its insulation power.

SwissGearLabs
17-01-2012, 05:39 AM
Nice idea, be sure to share version 2 with us when you get there... this vid led me on to a search of "bridge hammocks" on you tube which I think I like better than my own diy gathered edge hammock so will be looking to make a diy bridge type in the spring.

cool! I would be interested to see the result of your efforts! love to chat around diy gear and mods

happybonzo
17-01-2012, 07:36 AM
Naturally, like a lot of others will have done, I rushed to llokk at Bridge Hammocks
I have to say that I think your design is better in that every "bridge hammock" that I have looked at sags toward the middle

SwissGearLabs
17-01-2012, 03:32 PM
Naturally, like a lot of others will have done, I rushed to llokk at Bridge Hammocks
I have to say that I think your design is better in that every "bridge hammock" that I have looked at sags toward the middle

my centre lines are somewhat shorter than the outward lying ones in addition to the fact that, generally, from the foot to the head, the lines get shorter. this makes that, if you lay in it, the position is horizontal and flat (not saggy). if you go to the extremes, you can have a "negative sag", i.e. head and feet lower than bum....

jus_young
26-01-2012, 08:43 AM
To be released this spring, but pricey!!!

http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/gear-features/outdoor-euro-show-in-pics---part-one/8525-10.html

Here it is being used 5.20 in. They were sleeping out at -28degC! Gotta love Shug :)


http://www.youtube.com/user/shugemery?feature=watch

SwissGearLabs
28-01-2012, 09:35 AM
To be released this spring, but pricey!!!

http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/gear-features/outdoor-euro-show-in-pics---part-one/8525-10.html

Here it is being used 5.20 in. They were sleeping out at -28degC! Gotta love Shug :)


http://www.youtube.com/user/shugemery?feature=watch

thanks mate for the links! whoooo buddy, all secure in sector seven....

am amazed about how close the designs look! I am working on a second prototype because I still see lots of improvement potential. will show asap (too little spare time for serious sewing at the moment)

jus_young
28-01-2012, 09:46 AM
My pleasure, keep us informed as I'm interested to see how this develops.