3 Day Dartmoor Pack [Archive] - Natural Bushcraft

Roadkillphil

14-02-2012, 10:44 PM

Hi all.

I was supposed to be heading off to Dartmoor for 3 days, but due to a combination of medical issues and some dramas at home, I won't be going. I was all packed and ready to go, so I thought I'd unpack and photograph evrything and chuck it on here for all to see what I would've been taking. :D

I recently bought this Gelert Nimbus 45L rucsack from the Range as it was on offer and in my price range. I've been in the market for a 45L ish pack for a while. I have a 65 and a 35, but ones too big and the other is great for overnight stealth missions, but doesn't quite cut it for 3 days.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7189/6877503723_ced4e65781.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7904270@N07/6877503723/)
3 day Dartmoor pack (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7904270@N07/6877503723/) by roadkillphil (http://www.flickr.com/people/7904270@N07/), on Flickr

And here it is unpacked

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7058/6877599411_ee6627d347.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7904270@N07/6877599411/)
3 day Dartmoor pack-unpacked (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7904270@N07/6877599411/) by roadkillphil (http://www.flickr.com/people/7904270@N07/), on Flickr

All this was inside apart from the 95 pattern pants, jumper and gillet, DD hammock T shirt and mountainlife base layer... I'd be wearing that stuff :D

So lets have a look at the gear. On the outside of the pack is this little lot

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7043/6877513705_58042aac95.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7904270@N07/6877513705/)
All on the outside (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7904270@N07/6877513705/) by roadkillphil (http://www.flickr.com/people/7904270@N07/), on Flickr

Top left is my emergency poncho, 79p from Buyology, it covers me and my gear and packs down small. Then my stainless steel karibiner mug and sac pod 35L waterproof rucsack cover... I use this as a seat it wedges on my Butt and stays there cos of the drawcord...Ansum! It also doubles as (believe it or not!) a rucsack cover. On the right is my Northface shoulder strap pouch. This contains my first aid kit, which consists of... 1 large dressing, Sterets, cut to size plaster strip, steristrips, sutures, gloves and most importantly.... Bogroll! Nothing worse than needing a dump and having to empty your pack to find the Bogroll! I used to be a medical technician and have in the past carried extensive medical kit. But in my experience a basic kit will suffice and the best medical attention given is evacuation to a hospital ASAP.

Sooooo, in the top pocket...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7065/6877588225_b6f9f7293e.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7904270@N07/6877588225/)
Top pocket (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7904270@N07/6877588225/) by roadkillphil (http://www.flickr.com/people/7904270@N07/), on Flickr

Simply a waterproof jacket and in the orange drybag a shemagh, Barbour 100% wool gloves and a merino wool/possom fur hat.... toasty :D

In the front pouch....

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7059/6877523793_f288f4db6a.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7904270@N07/6877523793/)
Front pocket (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7904270@N07/6877523793/) by roadkillphil (http://www.flickr.com/people/7904270@N07/), on Flickr

food for free.. nuff said, a feather carving that needs finishing, my carving set that fits into a little lifeventure pouch with handy little pockets etc. The set consists of Flexcut Carvin Jack, little bottle of walnut oil, little bottle of gun oil (sharps maintenance), stropping compound, Flexcut carvin jack strop set, some rag and a selection of sandpaper.
As you can see, the hipflask, wallet and van keys live here too. Oh, and my Bullroarer :D

On to the main compartment....

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7191/6877576383_f4b9e0ef61.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7904270@N07/6877576383/)
Sleeping kit (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7904270@N07/6877576383/) by roadkillphil (http://www.flickr.com/people/7904270@N07/), on Flickr

In the blue bag is my softie hawk dossbag. In the yellow bag is my hammock rig and thermarest. and the Tarp MC bag contains..... A tarp MC and paracord too :D

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7037/6877533209_0d002fd71b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7904270@N07/6877533209/)
Clobber and hygiene (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7904270@N07/6877533209/) by roadkillphil (http://www.flickr.com/people/7904270@N07/), on Flickr

And in the red bag is my DPM Fleece, spare gruds and socks and a very compact washkit containing a clip on microfibre towel, a small bar of grandpa's pine tar soap, a travel toothbrush, toothpaste and spare contact lens'.
The headtorch actually lives in the front pouch....

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7047/6877553087_d3b580d52d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7904270@N07/6877553087/)
Feed me Seymour!! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7904270@N07/6877553087/) by roadkillphil (http://www.flickr.com/people/7904270@N07/), on Flickr

Food....things that aren't so obvious are the little tubes... T bags and sweetner, and the mini tub is Chilli pinch salt from the Cornish Seasalt company... Bleddy good stuff! also a bag of nuts and the blue lid tubs are raisins. I always pack more food than required, as I like to share and you never know if you fancy an extra night out! :D

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7047/6877568083_ca284b7d94.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7904270@N07/6877568083/)
Cook kit (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7904270@N07/6877568083/) by roadkillphil (http://www.flickr.com/people/7904270@N07/), on Flickr

For this trip I'm using my Snugpak response pak as my cook kit. It contains a water bottle for clean water and a platypus bottle for dirty water, a millbank bag, granola bars and kendle mint cake, my honey stove with tinder tub and paracord for making a tripod. Leather gloves for fire handling. A spork. A Tibetan 1100L Ti billy. the red bag fits in the billy and contains Whitebox stove, windshield, meths, tea, coffee, sweetner, hot chocolate, teaspoon, scourer and handle mod.

And finally what I'd be carrying on my person...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7195/6877541777_325b74b87d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7904270@N07/6877541777/)
On my person (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7904270@N07/6877541777/) by roadkillphil (http://www.flickr.com/people/7904270@N07/), on Flickr

The Gerber pouch/paracord rig clips to my belt and contains Blue flam lighter, Taylers Eyewitness folding pruning knife and a petzel E-lite headtorch... this torch also incorporates a whistle.
round my neck is a Svord peasant knife with an LMF firesteel...also incorporating a whistle. I have a maya stick attached to the firesteel...Inspired by AdrianRose T^
also on my belt is a set of bino's and my old paramedic pouch! This is now a vessel for my Bahco laplander folding saw, a small multitool that I have yet to find a use for, some paracord, lipsalve, a surgical needle (amazing for splinter/thorn removal!) and a DD Hammock bag that I use for tinder/kindling collection.

And I think thats it, I've probably forgotten something, but I aint actually going Dartmoor now, so it matters not :D

Thanks for looking

Phil

Martin

14-02-2012, 11:23 PM

comanighttrain

14-02-2012, 11:29 PM

hey dude...way more kit and way less food than I would carry usually, then again...i like my food! :P Looks like your in for a good time though. Enjoy!

rossbird

14-02-2012, 11:34 PM

Wot no meade Phil:rolleyes:

Roadkillphil

14-02-2012, 11:49 PM

Wot no meade Phil:rolleyes:
Hip flask ;)

Haha! My mead consumption has drastically been reduced :D

Fletching

14-02-2012, 11:54 PM

Roadkillphil

14-02-2012, 11:54 PM

Looks like you're going to miss a cracking trip mate. Wish I could have gone too but work always gets in the way of a good time. The weather forecast is great until I get there on Saturday when it is forecast to drizzle all day. :(

Martin

yerrr, I was hoping maybe to head up thurs, but that is now looking unlikely too. It is what it is, but I was looking forward to this trip :(

Looks like you're really getting your kit sorted now mate.

Cheers Bud, getting there, I used to carry so much. Without food or water, I hardly notice my pack now.

All the best

Phil

Roadkillphil

14-02-2012, 11:58 PM

Top notch kit list Phil! Pity you can't make this trip mate.

When you do get this 3 day-er on the go take a wee bit o' pemmican and some biltong. And PM me and I'll send you some of my dehydrated veg and protein mix and you can do another field test for us.

Steve :)

Cheers Steve :D

There was a time when I would have taken some of my homemade jerky, but I've gone over to the Veggie side of culinary delights now..... I'd be keen to try the veg/protein mix if it is defo meat free though bud T^

Fletching

15-02-2012, 12:11 AM

I'd be keen to try the veg/protein mix if it is defo meat free though bud T^

...'tis indeed meat free mate. Quite tasty methinks too, but I'll let you decide that.

:)

Kernowek Scouser

15-02-2012, 12:25 AM

Another really useful thread, cheers T^

GwersyllaCnau

15-02-2012, 12:39 AM

I'm always interested in seeing what others pack and how. Thanks Phil. I'm off for an overnighter with my son tomorrow night (wednesday) 1st ever sleep in a hammock. Am hoping to do a vid of the trip and a vid of what I pack and how.

Smith

15-02-2012, 08:19 AM

Really enjoyed reading this thread Phil, thanks for posting. Bookmarked in my "Loadout guides and discussions" folder.

Shame you missed the actual trip, hope you are able to make it out soon!

A great read! :campfire:

Dan XF

15-02-2012, 10:33 AM

Silverback

15-02-2012, 11:52 AM

Dan, on the subject of Bracknell got a mate/aquaintaince works out of there - or did. HART now but was tech then para.
Daryl T.

Dan XF

15-02-2012, 12:38 PM

Mr Toogood. Trained his wife Nicky when she was a trainee tech. Small world. I thought with his SAR Dog background it would be you that he knew. I was going to try for HART before I went off with depression. Couldn't have afforded the fuel to commute to their base though. Looks like off shore work for me now for a while while I get back on my feet.

jus_young

15-02-2012, 01:06 PM

Roadkillphil

15-02-2012, 01:54 PM

Nice one Phil, thanks for that. Some very similar choices coming up there including the rice dishes, they are quite nice. Glad to see that it all pretty much fits in a 45l bag as that was going to be my next aim really.

And it fits in with room to spare, I'm a little tired of wrasslin with packs trying to squeeze it all in.

Roadkillphil

15-02-2012, 02:03 PM

Hey Phil, where were you a Tech, was it in Cornwall? Did you meet my old crew mate Brian Needham? He's proper nuts, even by the standards of Bracknell where we used to work. Nice thread, similar to the stuff I carry except for the wood carving items. I have no skills in that area whatsoever.

Na bud, my patch was the mountains of Kosovo and Bosnia! I was a Combat Medical Technician for 6 years before moving to Cornwall and taking a job of least responsibility. At the age of 21 I was running an ambulance crew in Kosovo workin around the clock on many shouts a day ( Kosovo had no real infrastructure at the time) for a very undermanned and underequipped medical squadron.... moving to Cornwall, starting a family and working as a labourer was a nice change. :)

Is Brian Needham a crazy parachutist that wears glasses, slightly balding? If so he was the Brian that came to my aid when I fell off a cliff....

Cheers

Phil

Martin

15-02-2012, 02:06 PM

I can understand wanting to carry a smaller pack but why not be disciplined in the kit you carry and have more room in a larger pack? I always find it very difficult to pack up in the morning if my rucksack is too tightly packed.

Now, having said that, that should be the challenge for this year's autumn Dartmoor trip. Two nights with only a 35 litre pack? Nothing tied to the outside.

What do you think?

Martin

Roadkillphil

15-02-2012, 02:14 PM

Thanks for the positive comments guys.

Just to add, the pack also comes with an integral waterproof rain cover that is bright orange. Nifty.
Also the Tibetan Billy doesn't have a capacity of 1100 Litres.... that would be ridiculous!! Obviously that was ML not L!

Roadkillphil

15-02-2012, 02:14 PM

Adam Savage

15-02-2012, 03:08 PM

Awesome kit compilation buddy. Well put together and very compact. Great stuff :)

Dan XF

15-02-2012, 04:17 PM

I think the crazy parachutist is Big Rich who works on the Air Ambulance. Ex SBS and madder than Brian, much madder. One of my mates Graham Bint was in Kosovo. Decided theUN were too slo so filled a 4 tonner up with clothes and food and went in himself before NATO had even decided how best to do it.

dfxdave

15-02-2012, 04:58 PM

thanks for explaining what you take on a trip , learnt loads thanks, what do you think this pack would weigh?

cuppa joe

15-02-2012, 08:17 PM

Thanks for posting this Phil ...really informative for me as I'm trying to sort out a practical kit list....I have a savoury rice everyday for breakfast with a tin of tuna...really tasty just bring to the boil stand for 5 mins then boil again and viola .

Roadkillphil

15-02-2012, 09:13 PM

thanks for explaining what you take on a trip , learnt loads thanks, what do you think this pack would weigh?

I haven't got any scales at the mo, will try and weigh it ASAP. Defo Sub 20 kilos I reckon :D

Silverback

15-02-2012, 09:31 PM

Mr Toogood. Trained his wife Nicky when she was a trainee tech. Small world. I thought with his SAR Dog background it would be you that he knew..

Thats how I know him Dan although he was lowland and I'm Mountain ( same job, different altitudes ). Daryl hasnt got a dog anymore his passed away last year. I still bob around in the murky world of the Private Sector EMT. The attraction of the NHS isnt alluring enough, yet. OK as a private tech I dont get paid as much but at least I get to help with really poorly people and not the fri/sat/sun drunks.

I have a mate from Cleveland (another one from the voluntary SAR sector) who works offshore who keeps telling me that rig medic is a really cracking way to live and work.

Silverback

15-02-2012, 09:33 PM

I haven't got any scales at the mo, will try and weigh it ASAP. Defo Sub 20 kilos I reckon :D

Be interested to see too Phil, I didnt take half what you have on an overnighter and it felt heavy and Im used to hauling big loads

Roadkillphil

15-02-2012, 09:49 PM

Be interested to see too Phil, I didnt take half what you have on an overnighter and it felt heavy and Im used to hauling big loads

On a solo overnighter I take way less kit too. My 33L highlander and room to spare.

I also feel the distribution of weight and the quality of the pack plays a part too. I remember how a PLCE bergan and webbing was a dead weight and uncomfortable on a CFT, but then in Nepal I was carrying heavier loads in a northface 90L rucsack and barely felt it due to the comfort, fit and padding.

Silverback

15-02-2012, 10:57 PM

On a solo overnighter I take way less kit too. My 33L highlander and room to spare.

I also feel the distribution of weight and the quality of the pack plays a part too. I remember how a PLCE bergan and webbing was a dead weight and uncomfortable on a CFT, but then in Nepal I was carrying heavier loads in a northface 90L rucsack and barely felt it due to the comfort, fit and padding.

Yes know what you mean. I'm a standard sack packer, light at the bottom heavy at the top. Maybe the overnighter weight was down to the amount of insulation i had (3 season bag and Buffalo4 S outer). I had the rising feeling you get when removing heavy loads so i must have packed heavier than normal.

Rather perversely I actually found wearing webbing quite comfy.;)

markal17

18-02-2012, 07:21 PM

great set up mate would love to see more pic of the cooking sets you take out helpd me loads to set out my kit thanks mate