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Fletching
17-03-2012, 11:19 AM
Hi Chaps,

As I'm recovering from my back op and still not able to drive just yet, I'd like your help in kitting-out my Landy (90) for go anywhere bushcrafting. We're talking non-lightweight here! I've already got a few of the green recycling boxes numbered 1 and 2, 2x 20 litre water containers and a couple of 20 litre jerries. There's no roofrack yet.

Any lists, divided into Cooking, foodstuffs etc would be appreciated. If I get enough ideas, I can whittle it down and let you know how it all fits together.

Cheers chaps!

Steve :)

Fletching
17-03-2012, 11:43 AM
Ben, (http://www.naturalbushcraft.co.uk/forum/member.php?2484-Ben-Casey) where did you get your rebar steel pot hanger, mate?

Ben Casey
17-03-2012, 02:36 PM
My pot hanger do you mean the road pins LOL try Travis Perkins or someone like that I think they cost a couple of quid :) I hope that helps mate :D

Fletching
17-03-2012, 05:37 PM
My pot hanger do you mean the road pins LOL try Travis Perkins or someone like that I think they cost a couple of quid :) I hope that helps mate :D

That's the ones mate, cheers!

CanadianMike
17-03-2012, 05:59 PM
Recovery snatch strap and towing strap!!!! And a good set of tools, roadside emergency stuff, wool or reflective blankets, etc. Past that, anything you can stuff in there for bushcrafting, ala. Martin. ;)

Past that, lots of bungee cords, and some really strong magnets will let you attach one side of a tarp to the roof and 'bonnet' of your truck, the other side you can use adjustable tent pegs and lines to make a shelter near a fire. Did that last Oct, worked well!

garethw
17-03-2012, 07:08 PM
Hi there,
Never had a Landy, but had two Patrols and now a Terrano ll LWB...
I've always had in plastic crates the following :


US folding shovel
A small Volcano compressor
A Coleman Sportster
A SS kettle + tea and coffee
7 ton tow strap
Hi Lift Jack
Maglite + Petzl
Various bungies & straps for the roofrack


I did loads of off road trips, including crossing the Pyrenees... http://garethw.free.fr/espagne.html

Cheers
Gareth

AndyE
17-03-2012, 09:24 PM
I've seen cookers .. like the coleman twin burner mounted on a fold down shelf on the inside of the back door

My 90 and sankey are pimped to the max :D .. its even got a hot shower :D

90

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-pFZTLtv6uss/Tl9U7ZloB-I/AAAAAAAAFJA/ZSCTJQBMud0/s640/23012010016.jpg

Sankey

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6SEoobNt-mg/TeUyp0THD9I/AAAAAAAAEqA/wShLCdBJIfU/s640/tent.jpg

Andy

Fletching
17-03-2012, 09:50 PM
Great Chaps!...keep 'em coming...


Steve :)

rich290185
17-03-2012, 10:02 PM
my brother in law got a canoe just to make his 90 look better!!!!!

jus_young
17-03-2012, 10:06 PM
This kind of thing?

The modified door allows this stove

3977

to fold up into this

3978


Got these photos from http://landroverforums.com/forum/discovery-ii-18/rear-door-panel-mods-24650/

jus_young
17-03-2012, 10:09 PM
One of these may be beneficial

3979

Fletching
18-03-2012, 06:12 AM
Cool. Some interesting integral cooking set-ups there!

The main idea is to get to a place and then set-up camp with either tarp or tent, but for those times when you need to just pull-over and kip in comfort, the Maggiolina roof tents (http://www.autohome-uk.com/file_gb/magg_scelta.html) look the business, but have you seen the prices???

Fletching
18-03-2012, 06:44 AM
One of these may be beneficial

3979

Yep, already got an old Porta-Potti in the shed! ;)

garethw
18-03-2012, 08:40 AM
Cool. Some interesting integral cooking set-ups there!

The main idea is to get to a place and then set-up camp with either tarp or tent, but for those times when you need to just pull-over and kip in comfort, the Maggiolina roof tents (http://www.autohome-uk.com/file_gb/magg_scelta.html) look the business, but have you seen the prices???

I was lucky with my Maggiolina... as they are hugely expensive. I got it second hand of a 4x4 forum in France, for about 600 euros, kept it two years, had loads of use, and when I traded my Patrol for a VW campervan I sold it for 700 euros... :happy-clapping:

Really great piece of kit, soooo comfy and quick to put up and down... Only downslide is they use up 99% of you roof rack.. Mine was a Brownchurch, and I had just enough room for a couple of jerry cans standing up.

cheers
Gareth

Fletching
19-03-2012, 03:40 AM
Hammock wise, I'm wondering if I could run a tarp from a roof rack to two a couple of Tatonka tarp poles (http://www.greenmanbushcraft.co.uk/shelter-sleep/tatonka-tarp-stange-poles.htm) counter balanced with some dyneema and then having the hammock suspended between two road pins (http://www.hobuk.co.uk/acatalog/metal-fencing-pins.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=Product_Search&utm_campaign=google_base) (or even some thick rebar (http://www.metals4u.co.uk/detail.asp?Cat_ID=1534&Prd_ID=7548)), also counter balanced with some dyneema. Might be a bit low on the hammock front but if it works, means could suspend hammock without trees next to Landy.

Comments?

Steve :)

garethw
19-03-2012, 08:01 AM
Hi Steve,
If you can find just one tree or post, its easy to suspend a hammock and tarp from the roofrack of a 4x4... I do it all the time.

http://www.gwenllyn.com/hammock-and-car.jpg

cheers
Gareth

rich290185
19-03-2012, 09:29 PM
Hi Steve,
If you can find just one tree or post, its easy to suspend a hammock and tarp from the roofrack of a 4x4... I do it all the time.

http://www.gwenllyn.com/hammock-and-car.jpg

cheers
Gareth

love it!!!! gota get me a landy

CanadianMike
19-03-2012, 11:07 PM
I've slept in the back of my 4Runner easily enough (sleeping pads, etc.), just I need curtains (post-party hangover with the sun blasting you right in the face really sucks!), but is very easy to set up! :D

Marvell
20-03-2012, 12:32 AM
I had a chap come on a course with a kitted out landy. One of the best things he had was a fridge which he reckoned the solar panels he had on the roof would keep ticking over for a week if it was parked. I had a can of coke from it after a five day course and it was COLD!

How about a baker tent and wood burner? Or are you thinking more natural bushcrafting? (no pun intended)

Maybe consider a collapsible sink, solar shower (or bucket shower) and maybe even a roof based solar water heating solution. If you combined it with solar panels, you could have a chequer plate cover for them (giving you your roof rack back) which you could then use to make a porch.

A stonking great tarp to cover the roof rack and beyond could be used to make adequate shelter.

Do you have separate travel and domestic batteries? Could have all sorts of 12v things going on.

Fletching
20-03-2012, 06:39 AM
roof based solar water heating solution. If you combined it with solar panels, you could have a chequer plate cover for them (giving you your roof rack back) which you could then use to make a porch.

Got a mate that's going to help me set up a leisure battery and power it with solar panels or converted roof wind vents (http://www.flettner.co.uk/). Only problem with solar panels is I'm thinking of getting a roof tent so panels would have to go on top of that. Can you explain your chequer plate idea a bit more Steve? Cheers!

Steve :)

Fletching
20-03-2012, 07:19 AM
Blank canvas at the moment:

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6218/6999305285_6c193f4231_b.jpg

Marvell
20-03-2012, 08:14 AM
Was was thinking if you had stuff on the roof, then you could put a chequer pate pane over the top of it all for transit, giving you your roof rack back. If, however, you're going to put a tent up there, then you might want to consider mounting solar cells on a sliding panel which you pull out. Something like that :)

Fletching
20-03-2012, 02:15 PM
...a sliding panel which you pull out. Something like that :)

Interesting idea, Steve. S'pose the sliding panels could go under the roof rack and slide out from there. Could also put solar panels on top of the roof tent if it's of the Maggiolina type (has a fibreglass shell). Cheers!

Steve :)

Marvell
20-03-2012, 02:45 PM
If the cells were on a panel, you could orient it to the sun without having to move the car.

jus_young
20-03-2012, 08:54 PM
If you use the flexible amorphous solar panels you can fix them on with an adhesive around the shape of the panel. These are less fragile, don't quite work as well in lower light levels but should be adequate for what you need.

Fletching
20-03-2012, 09:36 PM
Thanks chaps, I'm noting all this stuff down, keep 'em coming.

:)

CanadianMike
20-03-2012, 10:06 PM
Install a woodstove, you already have the stovepipe (snorkel). Lol

jus_young
20-03-2012, 10:11 PM
Have a look at this (http://thevagabondadventures.com/us/for-sale-land-rover-defender-110-including-complete-overland-kit/) site for some inspiration. I like the idea of the pull out draw (about half way down) that sits between the wheel boxes. Raises the floor level a bit but very useful.

CanadianMike
20-03-2012, 10:50 PM
WOW!!!! That is amazing!!!!!! :D

And cheap too!!!!!

PS: Had some extra excalmation points left over, will use them up here: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fletching
04-06-2012, 09:21 PM
Well, I've now got Masai windows (http://www.masai-land-rover.com/#ecwid:category=829052&mode=category&offset=0&sort=normal) and rear bench seats in now, to get it through the London Low Emission Zone nonsense. As soon as I've got it through, I'll be putting chequer plate in the back along with a drawer for kit between the wheel boxes (a la Justin). I've already managed to have a good kip in my hammock in the back.

Steve :)

FishyFolk
04-06-2012, 09:27 PM
One of these. Always handy to have electricity :-)

http://powerequipment.honda.com/generators/recreational-generators

jus_young
04-06-2012, 09:48 PM
Well, I've now got Masai windows (http://www.masai-land-rover.com/#ecwid:category=829052&mode=category&offset=0&sort=normal) and rear bench seats in now, to get it through the London Low Emission Zone nonsense. As soon as I've got it through, I'll be putting chequer plate in the back along with a drawer for kit between the wheel boxes (a la Justin). I've already managed to have a good kip in my hammock in the back.

Steve :)

T^

Looking at FF's post reminded me about a split charge system giving you two batteries for extra capacity which would also allow for heating water and powering lights etc. Could even install a half decent inverter for 230V supplies.

Fletching
04-06-2012, 09:59 PM
Thanks FF and Justin. Leisure battery's already on the cards. I helped a mate install a new system on his yacht a few years ago, so know my way around this aspect.

Steve :)

CanadianMike
05-06-2012, 02:20 AM
Inverters are indispensable on 4x4, well worth the money, even if just for a small 300W one that'll charge a cell phone or laptop off the battery.

Kernowek Scouser
05-06-2012, 08:46 AM
Another fascinating project.

It looks like your landy is going to be a real home from home, all it seems to be missing is the (not so) mini bar :D

Hushwing
05-06-2012, 01:50 PM
Inverters are indispensable on 4x4, well worth the money, even if just for a small 300W one that'll charge a cell phone or laptop off the battery.

Agree with CDN Mike - have used inverters for wildlife surveying work (and keeping my HTC phone charged up which drops battery power the moment you look at it) and they have been indispensable. I would get as high an inverter as you can afford because even some inverters below 500W can struggle with a larger laptop ie you're in danger of draining the battery if not careful even on a landy (not that I have ever done that of course ;) not twice ever! )
this looks a reasonable one -
http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&q=Silverline+263764+Inverter+700W+:+700W+Inverter&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=11063740502735137945&sa=X&ei=XQzOT9CJIZTR8QOx2KHXDA&ved=0CGoQ8wIwAA

unless you use a woodgas stove to power those lighter electrical items! - http://biolitestove.com/homestove/overview/ or http://biolitestove.com/campstove/camp-overview/features

Hushwing
05-06-2012, 01:51 PM
Another fascinating project.

It looks like your landy is going to be a real home from home, all it seems to be missing is the (not so) mini bar :D

Stuff that - it's missing the barman!

AL...
06-06-2012, 06:59 AM
That has to be the coolest damn stove I have ever seen. :campfire:

Cheers
AL

Fletching
08-06-2012, 03:38 PM
Masai windows pics.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8014/7166464017_306ce64c18_c.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8144/7351674306_f0a34fc082_c.jpg

:)

Fletching
16-06-2012, 11:45 AM
Well, I didn't think it would be quite this easy, but I've just got a letter from transport for London informing me that my 90 is now London Low Emission Zone compliant.

Seats and windows. In the process, I've managed to add a couple of grand to the value and I'm probably the only person in London that's taken a 90 Hardtop and got it through.

Chuffed to bits.

:)

Fletching
20-06-2012, 03:10 PM
Looking for a decent 12V mini fridge now.

...well maybe not so 'mini'...gotta squeeze 'emergency' tinnies in-between the snags and bacon.

:)

jus_young
20-06-2012, 09:08 PM
Take your pick from this lot

http://www.minicoolers.co.uk/products/index.htm?;cid=gminf&gclid=CK63-O_b3bACFQ8htAodXzDpwg

We use a Camping gaz 30 litre cool box run off a 12V supply and it works very well. The down side is that it can be a little noisy when you are going to sleep at night, not that it has ever been noisy enough to keep us awake.

Tony1948
20-06-2012, 11:06 PM
Hi Fletch Y not try and get one out of an old caravan 12v and gas there are some on ebay under campin,good luck,Truck on.:happy-clapping:

Fletching
21-06-2012, 07:10 AM
Thanks chaps - looking now.

:)

jus_young
11-09-2012, 05:46 PM
Where has Fletch gone ??