Woodburning Stoves..

[NedB33]

Hi, I'm curious to know if anyone can give me a little advice on the woodburning stoves that are available, as i'd really prefer to use an 'open' wood fire when outside over say, a meths based option.

I notice Tamarack outdoor (I'm in no way affiliated with them) have their own version coming on sale soon, similar to the 'Solo Stove'. It look very impressive from what i can tell and i'm interested to learn more about this kind of set up. Ie. compact, lightweight, fits inside a Zebra etc..

Also, with regard to wild camping; does anyone have any experience of this kind of fire being an issue? I guess i'm asking from both a legal and practical standpoint.

Wondering how easy they would be to make, too.

Thanks in advance.

Ned.

[JonnyP]

There are a few on the market. I use a Woodland Edge firebox, its very good but heavy.

[ADz]

Well the question is a bit broad as it depends on what type of wood stove you're after. You should checkout the "honey stove" or woodgas stoves like the wild stove (http://wildstoves.co.uk/). There is various threads on here that discuss them.

With regards to legality, no stoves are not illegal, however wild camping is without permission of landowner in England although its tolerated in high non-agricultural land or in places like Dartmoor.

[NedB33]

Thanks for the replies, guys.

Just been having a good Google for Titanium and/or fire resistant composites to see how easy it would be to make my own equivalent but, it's a definite case of the materials and time (including potential fail element) costing too much to justify doing it. Steel would be the better bet but, heavy.

The 'wild stove' you shared the link to (thanks) is exactly the kind of thing i'm interested in.

[ian c]

I have the wild stove and only used it once but found it to be OK, it is quite a lot of money though.

[Peaks]

Hi,
I've got the Vargo Hexagon , Element 2.2 and Honey stove (s/steel)- they are all good. My personal preference is for the Vargo and Element as they are faff free. I'll probably sell the Honey in the near future.
They all work well and I prefer the built in windshield factor of the Element and Hexagon. All of them can house a meths burner or esbit/hexy if a "real fire" is an issue.
To be honest unless you have a real urge to make your own the Element is IMHO the best cos of build (and its cheaper than the Vargo. Mine arrived within 10 days from the States from ordering from UK Hammocks).
HTH

http://www.ukhammocks.co.uk/shop/article_63/Element-2.2-Stove-TI.html?sessid=zr1gtliy8jKyBiuajZ4Xau6iIQTU6b3wXQx EwjIFm2uqNQGluroWf4Hb6gPAHOXf&shop_param=cid%3D15%26aid%3D63%26

http://wildstoves.co.uk/survival-stoves-gear/vargo-titanium-hexagon-wood-stove/

[NedB33]

I'd not seen the element before when scouring the net for these, thanks for passing that on. Like the fact both of these fold flat but already have a Zebra and preference would be for a stove to slot neatly inside and save one space.

That said, a flat pack would leave room in the billy for more food stuffs etc..

The price of these is a definite draw back, though.

[Peaks]

Understand where you are coming from refitting in to the Zebra + the price.
There is a stainless version of the Vargo Hexagon available - see below
http://www.survivalresources.com/Products/Stoves.html

[jus_young]

Pricey option and quite small http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/cookers-and-stoves/SD104.html
Another cookset bundle http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/cookers-and-stoves/SD102.html
Or just the stove http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/cookers-and-stoves/RD101.html

All can be used with meths or wood etc. I have never used any of them as I have the Honey Stove and have no affiliation with the company, they just offer a very good service.

[wildish64]

Well the question is a bit broad as it depends on what type of wood stove you're after. You should checkout the "honey stove" or woodgas stoves like the wild stove (http://wildstoves.co.uk/). There is various threads on here that discuss them.

i cant make my mind up,am in need of a new one though,have looked up the two you suggested...still none the wiser though
was wondering which you had the most success with adz?

[Peaks]

Just found a review of the "Pocket Stove" referenced on the site in my last post above
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irMdBOB_mqg

Theres always the Hobo made from a utensil holder...............

[ADz]

i cant make my mind up,am in need of a new one though,have looked up the two you suggested...still none the wiser though
was wondering which you had the most success with adz?

I have the Pocket Stove and the Honey Stove but also want to try out the Wild Stove. I only started buying gear last year and haven't had much chance yet to try it out properley.

[wildish64]

oh right,sorry i thought you were making recommendations.

[Silverback]

I have yet to buy a wood/multi fuel stove. I made my first two and was given a home made one, all produce nice results with wood/meths/hexi

[wildish64]

ive got one of the swedish army sets but changed the mess tins to the austrain ones,it takes a trangia (comes with it) but they also can take a wood fire..it all just weighs a bit so would like to find a lighter option

[TheOutdoorist]

I have stainless steel emberlit stove and one in titanium.. had the pocket stove but too small for a fire in my opinion.

http://www.emberlit.com/

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-r52H0z--ghk/UMDRaD3mEtI/AAAAAAAAA_w/grMqwEJ0DTM/s320/GEDC0140.JPG

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-GoR80BdWKrM/UHGCQLrtTQI/AAAAAAAAA5w/ugr1VfI50tM/s320/GEDC1068.JPG

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HGJyNozqjsE/T9Ng0M4YOkI/AAAAAAAAAY8/gMkYHB7kGK4/s320/DSCF0791.JPG

Only just enough room for a trangia stove in a pocket stove..

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7IIcI9_4Ao8/T-iQ4msD5CI/AAAAAAAAAZc/d854fOchG6s/s320/2012-06-18+16.53.13.jpg

[FishyFolk]

The woodgas stoves are probably quite effective burners. I made one for myself lastsummer but ended up not being so impressed. They need to be top fed. So when the fuel burns out (this happens quickly), you have to lift the pot off to add more. In my case that meant working a minute or two to get the flame going again. It was quite a hazzle. better to get a stove that can be front fed imho

[bopdude]

The woodgas stoves are probably quite effective burners. I made one for myself lastsummer but ended up not being so impressed. They need to be top fed. So when the fuel burns out (this happens quickly), you have to lift the pot off to add more. In my case that meant working a minute or two to get the flame going again. It was quite a hazzle. better to get a stove that can be front fed imho

I just made myself one from an old baby milk supplement can, had the same problem re fuel so got another can sliced an inch off the top ( open end ) and then chopped an inch and a half out of it to form an opening, result, pan can sit on top of the ring and you can feed fuel in without removing the warming pot.
HTH

[GlenM]

Why don't you make your self a Hobo stove, its not going to cost much. I use a 10cm zebra with mine which fits inside all snug. I had to modify the handle which I removed and replaced with a brake cable from a bike.

I also made a leather bag to keep it in to save my kit getting black from the soot........all told it cost around £8 to make.

Cheers

Glen

[bopdude]

I've been looking for the stainless ones from Asda and Ikea but am struggling to find one at the moment.

[SimonB]

If you fancy yourself as a bit of a d.i.y man, there is this...

http://www.nimblewillnomad.com/stove.htm

I made one from some spare SS sheet when we had the kitchen done... Cracking little stove, used for wood or meths stove.. Also made a wood gas burner from veg cans.. Again, cheap, easy to make, and does the job...

[Silverback]

If you fancy yourself as a bit of a d.i.y man, there is this...

http://www.nimblewillnomad.com/stove.htm

I made one from some spare SS sheet when we had the kitchen done... Cracking little stove, used for wood or meths stove.. Also made a wood gas burner from veg cans.. Again, cheap, easy to make, and does the job...

and a lot more satisfying than trawling the interweb and clicking a mouse eh ?

[SimonB]

and a lot more satisfying than trawling the interweb and clicking a mouse eh ?



T^

[NedB33]

http://www.tamarackoutdoors.co.uk/PBSCCatalog.asp?ItmID=12011901

Looks a great piece of kit but...OUCH!

[NedB33]

If you fancy yourself as a bit of a d.i.y man, there is this...

http://www.nimblewillnomad.com/stove.htm

I made one from some spare SS sheet when we had the kitchen done... Cracking little stove, used for wood or meths stove.. Also made a wood gas burner from veg cans.. Again, cheap, easy to make, and does the job...

Nice! Loving the idea of it. Do you know if anyone has any templates for a more cylindrical version? I'm intent on getting something that fits inside a 14cm Zebra.

[Ehecatl]

If you fancy yourself as a bit of a d.i.y man, there is this...

http://www.nimblewillnomad.com/stove.htm

I made one from some spare SS sheet when we had the kitchen done... Cracking little stove, used for wood or meths stove.. Also made a wood gas burner from veg cans.. Again, cheap, easy to make, and does the job...

T^

[Silverback]

Nice! Loving the idea of it. Do you know if anyone has any templates for a more cylindrical version? I'm intent on getting something that fits inside a 14cm Zebra.


Ikea cutlery drainer - fits inside a zebra or i made my own billy to fit inside it

http://www.naturalbushcraft.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4585&d=1337191810

this is it using a meths pop can burner

http://www.naturalbushcraft.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4587&d=1337191849

[NedB33]

Ikea cutlery drainer - fits inside a zebra or i made my own billy to fit inside it



T^

[butchthedog]

If you fancy yourself as a bit of a d.i.y man, there is this...

http://www.nimblewillnomad.com/stove.htm

I made one from some spare SS sheet when we had the kitchen done... Cracking little stove, used for wood or meths stove.. Also made a wood gas burner from veg cans.. Again, cheap, easy to make, and does the job...

Might just have me a bash at doing one of them, thank's for the link Simon.

[Yungen of Bury]

cant speak from experience, but at the minute im planning on making a hobo stove from a paint can, namely because there rather wide, but so far the only paint cans ive been able to get hold of is the .8 litre ones and there not tall enough :( so on the weekend im off to the big B$Q and dulux store to see if i can blag some un used empty cans :D

[SimonB]

Might just have me a bash at doing one of them, thank's for the link Simon.


No problem..... Have fun. :)

[Tigger004]

If you make one from tin cans, and there are many on youtube, be careful you don't end up with stability issues, I've had a couple of fails and they could have been dangerous

Take a look at this, simple to make a works well - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luO3_08iqZI

[NedB33]

Decided my DIY skills were lacking to the point where it was easier for my lazy side to buy in a stove i could trust, given reviews i had read; i chose to order the Wild Woodgas Stove MKIIt.

This review http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bkVvwpPHhQc made my mind up, as i mentioned in another thread. I'll definately let everyone know what i think when it arrives but really looking forward to it arriving.

[Tigger004]

Watch the you tube video on using wood pellets in the wild woodgas stove, tried it yesterday and it worked very well, You made a good choice and won't regret it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWh21tjAe9g

[NedB33]

Fantastic!

Thanks for sharing.

[NedB33]

Just a bit of an update.

My Wild Stoves Woodgas MKIIt actually arrived last week. There was however, a slight issue with the 'arms' on the pot stand, in that they were not level. The arm holding the 'struts' (i hope that makes sense) didn't go quite far enough back and as such, was sitting higher than the others. Obviously this was unstable but it also meant that the struts would not hook into the other arms very well at all.

It's sort of hard to explain, so i hope this picture helps.

7893

Anyway, i contacted wild stoves immediately (this was around 18:30 on a Friday night) and was emailed back the following day. I passed on the images at their request to support what i was saying and waited for a response. I didn't get one until Monday afternoon but, they confirmed it was faulty and put a replacement in the post first class. That arrived yesterday (picked it up this morning) and i'm delighted to say it works perfectly.

I'm now looking forward to cooking on this, hopefully very soon!

In summary, initial disappointment curbed by what i would consider was good customer service. Only slight peeve would be them not sending it next day recorded delivery on principle but, given it would have been a midweek arrival and i wouldn't be heading out anywhere anyway, it's a minor irk.

Will let everyone know if there are any further issues when i use it!

[ADz]

Has anybody tried teh clone of the MKIIt or older model? They look basically exactly same except for square holes and weigh a bit more. You can get them for about £20 from China (http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Super-light-carbon-wood-stove-environmental-portable-picnic-cooker-solid-alcohol-stove-outdoor-appliances-fishing-furnace/119185_761095470.html).

They will obviously take a while to get here but its basically half price. I'm tempted to get the British version but curious as to how it compared.

[jacko1066]

I have got the Chinese clone, iv gotta say it brilliant!! Took about 2 weeks to get here and was definitely worth the wait!!

[ADz]

I have got the Chinese clone, iv gotta say it brilliant!! Took about 2 weeks to get here and was definitely worth the wait!!

Ah dammit, guess I should have been more patient or done more research. I thought it would take much longer as it says on site upto 20 days to dispatch and then upto 30 for delivery. I ordered the MKIIt few mins ago from wildstoves. Oh well it seams to be much lighter and better quality so maybe worth it. I'll deffo keep the clone in mind for a pezzie or replacement though :)