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Andy Sherwood
26-05-2013, 06:57 PM
Recently opened my youtube channel again and decided to start making bushcraft/survival type videos.

My camera is playing up so I decided to do a simple narration and powerpoint for today.

I could not get my mic to stop getting background noise and I apologize for my terrible lisp (due to my braces, had it for a while now).



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc8yVXweRTM

snowleopard
27-05-2013, 07:26 AM
Very nice!

Joel

Tigger004
27-05-2013, 08:45 AM
T^

Andy Sherwood
27-05-2013, 11:59 AM
Very nice!

Joel


T^

Thank you both kindly!

Unfortunately I have received less than nice messages elsewhere.

I'm trying, that's all that counts surely? I'm not the most confident person in the world...

Silverback
27-05-2013, 12:07 PM
I'm trying, that's all that counts surely? I'm not the most confident person in the world...

better to try and maybe fail than not bother and sit in judgement....

I use the acronym STOP to my students Stop, Orientate, Think, Plan

Andy Sherwood
27-05-2013, 12:31 PM
better to try and maybe fail than not bother and sit in judgement....

I use the acronym STOP to my students Stop, Orientate, Think, Plan

Yeah, that was my thought process. Not sure whether I actually failed though. I will make better quality videos soon as the camera is being fixed.

I am familiar with STOP, first remember seeing it in the SAS Survival Guide...

Kernowek Scouser
27-05-2013, 12:35 PM
Thank you both kindly!

Unfortunately I have received less than nice messages elsewhere.

I'm trying, that's all that counts surely? I'm not the most confident person in the world...

Andy, if you currently feel like you are not the most confident person in the world, putting yourself out there on YouTube, may actually make you feel worse.

Then again, the negative comments you are receiving elsewhere may provoke a FU response in you, upon which you can build confidence, as you will care less what other people think of you.

The question you need to ask yourself is, are you really ready for whatever responses you might receive?

As you are getting at in your video, there is no need to rush and jump in feet first, take your time, prepare yourself and act when you are ready.

But remember, like Wayne has said, it is better to try and risk failure, than not to try at all.

Good luck fella,

Atb.

Colin

Andy Sherwood
27-05-2013, 12:43 PM
Andy, if you currently feel like you are not the most confident person in the world, putting yourself out there on YouTube, may actually make you feel worse.

Then again, the negative comments you are receiving elsewhere may provoke a FU response in you, upon which you can build confidence, as you will care less what other people think of you.

The question you need to ask yourself is, are you really ready for whatever responses you might receive?

As you are getting at in your video, there is no need to rush and jump in feet first, take your time, prepare yourself and act when you are ready.

But remember, like Wayne has said, it is better to try and risk failure, than not to try at all.

Good luck fella,

Atb.

Colin

Colin, I am using youtube to get myself more comfortable in front of a mic/camera.

I'm fine with people, I am one of the most talkative people in my friendship group.

I have thick skin, they can say what they want, it's just nice to know people appreciate you trying.

Thanks for the advice,

Andy

Silverback
27-05-2013, 12:52 PM
I am familiar with STOP, first remember seeing it in the SAS Survival Guide...

Yup I was the 11,000 man on the balcony at Princess Gate, just behind John Mac ;)

I use it in relation to teaching Mountain First Aid where rushing into a situation can have catasrophic results for rescuers/responders

Oh and Colin talks a lot of sense....

Andy Sherwood
27-05-2013, 12:56 PM
Yup I was the 11,000 man on the balcony at Princess Gate, just behind John Mac ;)

I use it in relation to teaching Mountain First Aid where rushing into a situation can have catasrophic results for rescuers/responders

Oh and Colin talks a lot of sense....

I've been to Hereford before and everyone said they were the second man at the seige! ;)

Mountain Rescue is under appriciated by the wider public. We have a collection here for the one closest to us and I always donate when I can.

Both you and Colin talk sense and I appreciate the feedback from both of you!

Silverback
27-05-2013, 01:09 PM
Mountain Rescue is under appriciated by the wider public. We have a collection here for the one closest to us and I always donate when I can.



T^ and currently busy filling the gap for the statutory emergency services following the last round of funding cuts

TreefrogGB
27-05-2013, 07:23 PM
better to try and maybe fail than not bother and sit in judgement....

I use the acronym STOP to my students Stop, Orientate, Think, Plan

Although that actually spells SOTP…..

:oops:

Silverback
27-05-2013, 07:27 PM
Although that actually spells SOTP…..

:oops:

I know.....thats because I didnt Stop Think Orientate and Plan ;)

TreefrogGB
27-05-2013, 10:29 PM
I know.....thats because I didnt Stop Think Orientate and Plan ;)

You're not the only one

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01667/bus-sotp_1667854i.jpg

Silverback
27-05-2013, 10:44 PM
You're not the only one

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01667/bus-sotp_1667854i.jpg

T^

sausage100uk
29-05-2013, 09:33 PM
At work whenever we get a serious job, be it cardiac arrest or rtc or whatever, whenever you get a pause you allways stop and go back and review the basics.... CABCDEFG if your not doing anything..... review and see if there is something you should be doing.

Silverback
29-05-2013, 09:47 PM
at work whenever we get a serious job, be it cardiac arrest or rtc or whatever, whenever you get a pause you allways stop and go back and review the basics.... Cabcdefg if your not doing anything..... Review and see if there is something you should be doing.

ems ? must be.....with that acronym... Catastrophic Bleed, Airway with c-spine, Breathing with O2, Circulation, Disability, Extremities, Fractures, dont ever forget glucose

sausage100uk
29-05-2013, 09:59 PM
Yep, specialist paramedic, although my role is focused on primary care I still get my boots wet...

Silverback
29-05-2013, 10:09 PM
Yep, specialist paramedic, although my role is focused on primary care I still get my boots wet...

cool....ECP, community practicioner type role? Which trust ?

sausage100uk
29-05-2013, 10:25 PM
Ecp model although were labelled paramedic practitioners. Work for SECAMB in sussex. Focussed on minor injury and minor health problems, keeping people out of a&e, im just about to do 2 months in a GP surgery which should be good ( no nights no weekends!) Will miss being with the lads and lasses at the sharp end though.

Silverback
29-05-2013, 10:29 PM
Work for SECAMB in sussex. .


Excellent! Have a friend works for same trust.

Ehecatl
30-05-2013, 11:19 PM
Ecp model although were labelled paramedic practitioners. Work for SECAMB in sussex. Focussed on minor injury and minor health problems, keeping people out of a&e, im just about to do 2 months in a GP surgery which should be good ( no nights no weekends!) Will miss being with the lads and lasses at the sharp end though.

T^

rawfish111
31-05-2013, 07:31 PM
Ecp model although were labelled paramedic practitioners. Work for SECAMB in sussex. Focussed on minor injury and minor health problems, keeping people out of a&e, im just about to do 2 months in a GP surgery which should be good ( no nights no weekends!) Will miss being with the lads and lasses at the sharp end though.

T^

shepherd
01-06-2013, 11:33 AM
video removed? :s

El
04-06-2013, 06:54 PM
Tried to watch your vid Andy but it says it has been removed.
Dont worry about negative comments bro, they are written by idiots with too much time on their hands..delete them if they bother you. Remember you are the one that has got of "YOUR" bottom to go out side and do something constructive while these silly "TROLLS" sit in their bedrooms 24/7 desperately writing rubbish on youtube vids hoping someone will pay attention to them.

If making bushcraft vids makes "YOU" happy..make them, some one in the bushcraft fraternity will always be interested in how other guys are doing things.:rock-on:

Silverback
04-06-2013, 07:00 PM
Remember you are the one that has got of "YOUR" bottom to go out side and do something constructive while these silly "TROLLS" sit in their bedrooms 24/7 desperately writing rubbish on youtube vids hoping someone will pay attention to them.



Well said - theres always some kit laden, tommy three cookers guy with all the gear and zero idea that knocks those who have bothered to put the effort in

El
04-06-2013, 07:07 PM
Mr Tommy three cookers with all the gear and no idea, has paid me a visit once or thrice, and written nice constructive criticism bless him.
I glanced at the first word and then clicked delete , end of story :)

Silverback
04-06-2013, 07:11 PM
Mr Tommy three cookers with all the gear and no idea, has paid me a visit once or thrice, and written nice constructive criticism bless him.
I glanced at the first word and then clicked delete , end of story :)

Thats why I dont do youtube....T^

El
04-06-2013, 07:24 PM
Screw em..I stick vids up for friends and family if anyone else dont like it thats their prob not mine :)

snowleopard
04-06-2013, 08:14 PM
Screw em..I stick vids up for friends and family if anyone else dont like it thats their prob not mine :)


T^

rawfish111
04-06-2013, 10:22 PM
Screw em..I stick vids up for friends and family if anyone else dont like it thats their prob not mine :)

T^

Andy Sherwood
05-06-2013, 11:22 PM
Thanks for the advice guys, it does help.

I removed the video not long ago as I am not happy with it and I think waiting a little while and trying to improve it would help.

I do intend to get videos up sometime in the future, I don't want fame or ad money like alot of yt people do, just want to show others how I go about my own personal path of bushcraft.

Once again, I appreciate the kind words guys and bad comments won't stop me from doing what I love. I've been doing this as long as I can remember since I was a small child and I will not be disheartened by others. I just felt more susceptible regarding videos due to keyboard warriors intent on making me feel bad. It won't stop my efforts in bushcraft but does make more weary of YouTube and trolls.

Once again, thanks everyone and if any of you ever come down my way then be sure to give me a shout.

All the best,

Andy

El
05-06-2013, 11:41 PM
WTG Andy!T^

shepherd
06-06-2013, 09:16 AM
Tried to watch your vid Andy but it says it has been removed.
Dont worry about negative comments bro, they are written by idiots with too much time on their hands..delete them if they bother you. Remember you are the one that has got of "YOUR" bottom to go out side and do something constructive while these silly "TROLLS" sit in their bedrooms 24/7 desperately writing rubbish on youtube vids hoping someone will pay attention to them.

If making bushcraft vids makes "YOU" happy..make them, some one in the bushcraft fraternity will always be interested in how other guys are doing things.:rock-on:

+1 well said...

but im with sapper... i dont make youtube vids purely because i see very good, imformative vids on there .. with bushcrafters who know a hell of alot more than me putting vids out there and getting full on abuse for what i thought was a great watch!

Silverback
06-06-2013, 12:14 PM
+1 well said...

but im with sapper... i dont make youtube vids purely because i see very good, imformative vids on there .. with bushcrafters who know a hell of alot more than me putting vids out there and getting full on abuse for what i thought was a great watch!

I've been trained to deal with the media and received buckets of abuse (admittedly the praise outweighed it) from people I called colleagues for appearing on TV or Radio...thats what put me off

Andy Sherwood
06-06-2013, 12:47 PM
I've been trained to deal with the media and received buckets of abuse (admittedly the praise outweighed it) from people I called colleagues for appearing on TV or Radio...thats what put me off

But why? Are they jealous? Surely having someone like yourself, knowledgeable and experienced is a benefit to the community as you are giving out proper and decent advice.


The first time I tried a video (before the OP one) I was heckled and branded many awful things. I am better able to take this now thanks to everyone on this thread, but I can't understand why people feel the need to do it. I reckon they would act differently offline compared to when they are able to hide behind a username.

Silverback
06-06-2013, 12:59 PM
But why? Are they jealous? Surely having someone like yourself, knowledgeable and experienced is a benefit to the community as you are giving out proper and decent advice.


Dunno...must be..they accused me of self promotion and fuelling my ego...anyway they are ancient history now...I still have media responsibilities though just with another organisation

shepherd
06-06-2013, 01:29 PM
good on ya

El
06-06-2013, 04:25 PM
No worries, I make vids for the fun of it ,watch or dont watch, it does not cause me any pain lol

JulesC
06-06-2013, 04:57 PM
Andy, Shame that the pressure forced you to take it down. I've watched a few YouTube videos and while some have been less helpful I cannot think of many that have been so dire that I don't get either a different view I hadn't considered or an example of how not to do something or why you should do it a certain way.

I've skulked around on this forum for a while and find that its smaller but more friendly than other forums, the comments you received seem to support it.

Stick with it, your way is right for you and any tosser can hide behind their mouse and criticise, never going further a field than their local McD! I came to the conclusion that they want to do something to be noticed and the easiest way is to damage, effectively vandals. Its hard but ignore them and paddle your own canoe!

Good luck.

Jules

BY the way what was your acronym? I'm a Scout Leader and they're always useful to embed them in teen age minds!

Silverback
06-06-2013, 05:15 PM
SURVIVAL:

S - Size Up the Situation:
U - Use All Your Senses & Undo Haste Makes Waste
R - Remember Where You Are:
V - Vanquish Fear and Panic:
I - Improvise and Improve:
V – Value Living:
A – Act Like the Natives:
L – Live by Your Wits and Learn Basic Skills:

I think thats what Andy said......could you fill in the gaps Andy ?

Andy Sherwood
06-06-2013, 05:37 PM
Andy, Shame that the pressure forced you to take it down. I've watched a few YouTube videos and while some have been less helpful I cannot think of many that have been so dire that I don't get either a different view I hadn't considered or an example of how not to do something or why you should do it a certain way.

I've skulked around on this forum for a while and find that its smaller but more friendly than other forums, the comments you received seem to support it.

Stick with it, your way is right for you and any tosser can hide behind their mouse and criticise, never going further a field than their local McD! I came to the conclusion that they want to do something to be noticed and the easiest way is to damage, effectively vandals. Its hard but ignore them and paddle your own canoe!

Good luck.

Jules

BY the way what was your acronym? I'm a Scout Leader and they're always useful to embed them in teen age minds!

Hi Jules, thank you for the kind words.

NB is by far my favourite forum though I rarely post.

I will probably remake the video and edit it at some point in the future.

Here is the acronym though, hope it is of use to you...

S - Size up the situation
U - Undue Haste makes waste
R - Remember where you are
V - Vanquish fear and panic
I - Improvise
V - Value living
A - Act like the natives
L - Live by your wits

In a little detail, firstly sizing up the situation by looking for any injuries you may have and if you are in a group whether others are injured. This is also the time to do an equipment check and know what you have available to you. Secondly, you must remember to remain calm and to take time to make decisions - rushing will severely diminish your capability to make the right or rational decisions to aid in your situation. It is important that there is a confident and competent leader if you are in a group, but at the same time, all members are allowed to have a say and suggest ideas. Thirdly, you must consider your location and take into account whether this will have an effect on your situation. This is particularly true if you either happen to be in an area that is hard for search and rescue to be conducted or if you personally or if a member of your group (if you are in one) has an injury that limits mobility as this may mean they cannot traverse terrain. This is also the time if you have a map to try and pinpoint your location and if you get it and communication is possible then try to relay it to rescue teams. The next point is to ensure you eliminate any fear or anxiety you have again, if you are in a group keep an eye on others if they show signs of either two. After this has been ensured, you should make an attempt to improvise by knowing what you have and what you need but don't have. For the latter, try to find natural alternatives. Remember murphy's rule of combat #7 - if it looks stupid but it works, then it isn't stupid. Next, you should strive to keep yourself positively motivated and to value life. Losing morale will only worsen your situation. If you are in a group then ensure everyones spirits are kept high. After this you should try to act like the natives, meaning looking for natural materials to aid you and having respect for all point things, only taking what you need from around you. Finally, you must remember to live by your wits, listening both to your brain and your gut, taking risks only when they will significantly aid your survival or that of your group (if you are in one).

The paragraph above is just more detailed breakdown of the acronym. I thought it would benefit you if I added it though.

If you need anything else then please message me, I am always happy to help!

Take care,

Andy

Andy Sherwood
06-06-2013, 05:40 PM
SURVIVAL:

S - Size Up the Situation:
U - Use All Your Senses & Undo Haste Makes Waste
R - Remember Where You Are:
V - Vanquish Fear and Panic:
I - Improvise and Improve:
V – Value Living:
A – Act Like the Natives:
L – Live by Your Wits and Learn Basic Skills:

I think thats what Andy said......could you fill in the gaps Andy ?

Cheers mate, didn't see this as I typed the response for Jules.

Silverback
06-06-2013, 06:00 PM
Cheers mate, didn't see this as I typed the response for Jules.

yes mate but you filled in the gaps...there was additional info...and i didt read above your post either oops ! ;)

JulesC
07-06-2013, 08:16 AM
Thanks both, as I said deffo one of the friendliest fora (??) forums on the net.

J

Rasputin
30-07-2013, 09:38 PM
better to try and maybe fail than not bother and sit in judgement....

I use the acronym STOP to my students Stop, Orientate, Think, Plan

Should that be Stop, Think, Orientate and Plan. :confused: