A warning about pine resin!

[snowleopard]

Nasty stuff..... When it's hot, it can deliver a very nasty burn. (That's why I haven't been posting for a few days.) I was using it to glue a binding down, and the can I was heating it in fell over onto my hand. Beware, beware, and only handle with thick gloves on!

Hope that's useful,

Joel

[Tigger004]

Good advice, anything gloopy and hot is the same, Jam, syrup and porridge as examples

[Silverback]

Good advice, anything gloopy and hot is the same

remember the first aid advice for burns is to:

cool with water for a minimum 10 mins, cover with a none fluffy none sticky dressing and consider a trip to A and E or even evacuation (serious burns) dependent on Location, Age of casualty, Depth of burn and Area burned....chemical burns require specialist treatment and should always be evacuated and cooled for a min 20 minutes. Electrical burns should also always be followed with a visit to hospital as the electrocution could cause electrical disturbance in the body and lead to cardiac arrythmias.

If you are treating burns on others do NOT use lotions, potions creams or sprays unless its a dedicated watergel type burns dressing. Butter does NOT make burns better so dont do it....remember you leave yourself open to allsorts of local laws which may not be as sympathetic as the UK if you do treat anyone.

If you are treating yourself there are numerous natural remedies... ;)

This is obviously advice given over an internet forum and although follows the directives of HSE ACOP 42 and as such is generally specific to the UK. It should not be considered a substitute for appropriate training courses. :)

[Ehecatl]

Good advice, anything gloopy and hot is the same, Jam, syrup and porridge as examples

Yup ~ Jam, syrup, sugar, fat, resin and oils can all be heated above 100 centigrade and they stick to you which is why they do such a good job of burning. If you are using gloves, make sure that they are man enough for the job and won't get melted onto your hand!

Hope your hand is ok Joel.

M@

[Chubbs]

remember the first aid advice for burns is to:

cool with water for a minimum 10 mins, cover with a none fluffy none sticky dressing and consider a trip to A and E or even evacuation (serious burns) dependent on Location, Age of casualty, Depth of burn and Area burned....chemical burns require specialist treatment and should always be evacuated and cooled for a min 20 minutes. Electrical burns should also always be followed with a visit to hospital as the electrocution could cause electrical disturbance in the body and lead to cardiac arrythmias.

If you are treating burns on others do NOT use lotions, potions creams or sprays unless its a dedicated watergel type burns dressing. Butter does NOT make burns better so dont do it....remember you leave yourself open to allsorts of local laws which may not be as sympathetic as the UK if you do treat anyone.

If you are treating yourself there are numerous natural remedies... ;)

This is obviously advice given over an internet forum and although follows the directives of HSE ACOP 42 and as such is generally specific to the UK. It should not be considered a substitute for appropriate training courses. :)

Excellent advice from Sapper, thankyou.

[shepherd]

hope your hand is better bud

[Silverback]

Excellent advice from Sapper, thankyou.


free of my usual charges too ;)

[OakAshandThorn]

Good advice, anything gloopy and hot is the same, Jam, syrup and porridge as examples
And hot wax from a lit candle...

[Fraxinus]

A good reminder, we can all make mistakes or have accidents like yours Joel...I lifted up the dutch oven by the bail handle the other week to put more wood in the firebox...I felt a right plonker far longer than the pain lasted for, it niggled during the following days paddle to remind that my leather gloves were right next to the fire! :ashamed:

Ta for posting about this experience.
Rob.

[Richie]

And hot wax from a lit candle...

Now that's quite a nice sensation, .......or is that just me? :p

[SimonB]

Guessing by the scenario given, you suffered partial thickness burning... i.e, a nice watery blister on the burn site?....


As Sapper has quite rightly pointed out, cooling for minimum of 10 mins.....

The size of the burn will depend on the next plan of action...

Any burn that is roughly the size of your palm, needs to be looked at in A&E.

Burns round the moouth, nose, face, neck, genitals, regardrless, is best looked at in casualty dept.

Cling film is a fantastic burn dressing, but if it is used, do NOT wrap it round the burn.. in case of swelling. Just lay concertina type over the area affected.

One last bit.. DO NOT BURST ANY BLISTER !!!!.. Bacteria can get in and can cause cellulitis.... And you don't want that believe me..

After the burning sensation has gone,(maybe 24 hr,)use a skin moisturiser and apply gently to the area...It keeps the skin supple, and promotes healthy skin to heal better...

[Silverback]

A useful acronym is L.A.D.A

Location - Area - Depth - Age

L- Location Hands/feet/face/eyes/mouth/genitalia any burn circling a limb, any large burn to the chest

A- Area 5% superficial - 1% Partial thickness - 1 inch square Full thickness - Humans lose 1% body fluid per 15 of body surface area - as Simon says palm and fingers of casualties hand = 1% body surface.

D- Depth Superficial = US 1st degree - dry, red and sore. Partial thickness = US 2nd deg - wet and slimy or blistered, very sore. Full thickness = US 3rd deg - charred black or white and waxy looking, may see muscle tissue inderneath not always sore. MIXED DEPTH BURNS MUST GO TO ED

A - Age the elderly and very young folks should always attend hospital following burns they have less of an ability to regulate core temperature, less able to compensate for fluid loss (elderly) and skin is thinner in the elderly..both age groups have lower resistance to infection

In an outdoor/wilderness setting you should always treat for hypothermia

[snowleopard]

remember the first aid advice for burns is to:

cool with water for a minimum 10 mins, cover with a none fluffy none sticky dressing and consider a trip to A and E or even evacuation (serious burns) dependent on Location, Age of casualty, Depth of burn and Area burned....chemical burns require specialist treatment and should always be evacuated and cooled for a min 20 minutes. Electrical burns should also always be followed with a visit to hospital as the electrocution could cause electrical disturbance in the body and lead to cardiac arrythmias.

If you are treating burns on others do NOT use lotions, potions creams or sprays unless its a dedicated watergel type burns dressing. Butter does NOT make burns better so dont do it....remember you leave yourself open to allsorts of local laws which may not be as sympathetic as the UK if you do treat anyone.

If you are treating yourself there are numerous natural remedies... ;)

This is obviously advice given over an internet forum and although follows the directives of HSE ACOP 42 and as such is generally specific to the UK. It should not be considered a substitute for appropriate training courses. :)

Thanks! It was only the tips of my left fingers, but they are better now, so thanks for the support! T^

[saxonaxe]

Tesco carrier bags are bad news when they're on fire too. I dipped the diesel fuel tank on my boat and wiped the dipstick with a bit of kitchen paper towel and put the paper in a Tescos bag which I had hanging in the galley being used as a gash bag. About 20 minutes later I lit the galley stove, blew the match out and threw it in the bag...Failed!! match was still glowing and the dipstick wipe caught fire. Flames were contained within the bag but when I grabbed it to throw it over the side (I was at anchor) the bag collapsed and stuck to my hand.

Luckily it had rained in the night and my inflatable dinghy which was on the cabin top had rain water in It, so I scuttled up onto the cabin top and stuck my hand complete with melted bag into the water..sizzle...sizzle..:D

Cut round my hand with scissors leaving a 'plastic' palm in situ and went ashore in the dinghy. I was in the harbour anchorage in Falmouth, I landed at Falmouth Yacht Haven and the man in the Harbour Office in Arwenack Street offered to get an ambulance but I got a taxi up to the doctors surgeries up the top of the town.

I had been waiting for a good weather forecast as I was bound for Portugal..Ha! voyage postponed, but I spent some happy weeks on a pontoon mooring up the River Fal waiting for my palm and fingerprints to grow again..;) ;)

[snowleopard]

Guessing by the scenario given, you suffered partial thickness burning... i.e, a nice watery blister on the burn site?

The blister is still quite big, but going down slowly. I have been using aloe vera on it.

Thanks everyone,

Joel

[snowleopard]

Tesco carrier bags are bad news when they're on fire too. I dipped the diesel fuel tank on my boat and wiped the dipstick with a bit of kitchen paper towel and put the paper in a Tescos bag which I had hanging in the galley being used as a gash bag. About 20 minutes later I lit the galley stove, blew the match out and threw it in the bag...Failed!! match was still glowing and the dipstick wipe caught fire. Flames were contained within the bag but when I grabbed it to throw it over the side (I was at anchor) the bag collapsed and stuck to my hand.

Luckily it had rained in the night and my inflatable dinghy which was on the cabin top had rain water in It, so I scuttled up onto the cabin top and stuck my hand complete with melted bag into the water..sizzle...sizzle..:D

Cut round my hand with scissors leaving a 'plastic' palm in situ and went ashore in the dinghy. I was in the harbour anchorage in Falmouth, I landed at Falmouth Yacht Haven and the man in the Harbour Office in Arwenack Street offered to get an ambulance but I got a taxi up to the doctors surgeries up the top of the town.

I had been waiting for a good weather forecast as I was bound for Portugal..Ha! voyage postponed, but I spent some happy weeks on a pontoon mooring up the River Fal waiting for my palm and fingerprints to grow again..;) ;)

Ouch...... :(

[CanadianMike]

Don't forget McDonald's coffee! Lol

[Silverback]

Don't forget McDonald's coffee! Lol

and apple pie

[snowleopard]

Don't forget McDonald's coffee! Lol

:jumping-joy:

[Ehecatl]

Tesco carrier bags are bad news when they're on fire too.

...and Sainsbury's and Morrisons and Asda and Aldi and.... Zzzzzzzz....

[snowleopard]

...and Sainsbury's and Morrisons and Asda and Aldi and.... Zzzzzzzz....

You forgot M&S, but their bags are so eco-friendly that they wouldn't burn you :)

[Ashley Cawley]

Beware, beware, and only handle with thick gloves on!reminded me of one winters day when I was beside the campfire with friends Pouring out freshly boiled water I had to wool gloves on, One wobble with my cup and I spilt boiling water on to my gloved hand and of course it wouldn't come off quick enough! Nothing serious just a bad blister. It's amazing how well the body heals against burns.

[jbrown14]

And hot wax from a lit candle...

Ohhhhh, no joke there. I was nursing a nasty friction burn on my arm after being ejected from a tube behind a speed-boat (in my young and stupid days...) when the power went out in the cabin where we were hanging out. Candles were lit, wax was dripping, some foolish souls with calloused hands began to pool hot wax in their palms and walk around to show people. My cousin approached me with his handful of molten wax while I groaned in pain in the dark. He tripped on a carpet edge and with perfect aim, deposited the wax all over my injured arm.

No weapon was within reach and I was in too much pain to kill him with my bare hands at that point, so he lives to this day.

Burns are no joke, good advice from Sapper on treatment. Best preventative advice I can think of is, move slowly and deliberately and think 5 steps ahead.

All the best,

Josh

[Ehecatl]

Reminds me - those burns you can get when preparing chilli when you forgetfully rub your eye. Ouch! :mad:

[OakAshandThorn]

Ohhhhh, no joke there. I was nursing a nasty friction burn on my arm after being ejected from a tube behind a speed-boat (in my young and stupid days...) when the power went out in the cabin where we were hanging out. Candles were lit, wax was dripping, some foolish souls with calloused hands began to pool hot wax in their palms and walk around to show people. My cousin approached me with his handful of molten wax while I groaned in pain in the dark. He tripped on a carpet edge and with perfect aim, deposited the wax all over my injured arm.

No weapon was within reach and I was in too much pain to kill him with my bare hands at that point, so he lives to this day.

Burns are no joke, good advice from Sapper on treatment. Best preventative advice I can think of is, move slowly and deliberately and think 5 steps ahead.

All the best,

Josh
:shocked: I think I would've passed out from the pain. :(

[Silverback]

, move slowly and deliberately and think 5 steps ahead.


We have a saying round these parts ... More haste, less speed

[jbrown14]

:shocked: I think I would've passed out from the pain. :(

I nearly did, my friend. :(

Crazy thing is, not ten minutes later, a girl who was goofing around doing hand-stands or something with the other girls fell and dislocated her elbow and I was apparently the only one there who knew how to treat her for shock and immobilize the arm. Phones were down so someone else at the party drove her to the hospital. I didn't notice my own pain when I was dealing with hers...

[jbrown14]

We have a saying round these parts ... More haste, less speed

T^

[FishyFolk]

Ohhhhh, no joke there. I was nursing a nasty friction burn on my arm after being ejected from a tube behind a speed-boat (in my young and stupid days...) when the power went out in the cabin where we were hanging out. Candles were lit, wax was dripping, some foolish souls with calloused hands began to pool hot wax in their palms and walk around to show people. My cousin approached me with his handful of molten wax while I groaned in pain in the dark. He tripped on a carpet edge and with perfect aim, deposited the wax all over my injured arm.

No weapon was within reach and I was in too much pain to kill him with my bare hands at that point, so he lives to this day.

Burns are no joke, good advice from Sapper on treatment. Best preventative advice I can think of is, move slowly and deliberately and think 5 steps ahead.

All the best,

Josh

Lot of a people allive today simply because it's illegal to kill them... :-)

[Silverback]

Lot of a people allive today simply because it's illegal to kill them... :-)

and there is no cure for stupid.......

[OakAshandThorn]

I nearly did, my friend. :(

Crazy thing is, not ten minutes later, a girl who was goofing around doing hand-stands or something with the other girls fell and dislocated her elbow and I was apparently the only one there who knew how to treat her for shock and immobilize the arm. Phones were down so someone else at the party drove her to the hospital. I didn't notice my own pain when I was dealing with hers...
Seems like adrenaline took over in your situation. Dislocating the elbow is bl**** excruciating...