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Alexdermietzel97
15-11-2013, 09:37 AM
Hi all at Natural Bushcraft

Well my Mother has already started moaning to me about what she can get me for Christmas:rolleyes:

Since I like sharp things; I thought I would ask for some knives and a saw.

One of the said potential knives is a mora 711. I've never owned one before, but I tried one out and I really like the thick handle.

I plan is to modify it for my preferences, I would do the following:

* Drill a hole in the handle and put some 550 paracord through it for a wrist lanyard.

* Heat the sheath up and push my thumb into the area that retains the blade. This will result in a sheath that retains the blade really well (I saw this on youtube, it's not my idea).

* Put a thick patina on it and polish the patina off the scandi grind.

* Put a micro-bevel on the scandi for additional strength.

* Put a leather or paracord loop through the belt loop on the sheath. Then I would put a carabiner (or other clip) on the loop so the knife can be easily and quickly attached or detached from my rucksack.

Perfection if you ask me;)

Anyway, here comes the question:ashamed:

Although this setup is very cheap, I want it to be reliable. I am wondering what sort of tang (length, width ect) does the mora 711 have? I know the tang on my companion is pretty good (3/4 tang) and I know the companion is very tough and capable (cus I beat the cr&p out of it:evilgrin:). Does the 711 have the same tang as the companion, as I know the 711 is a much older design?

I love mora's and so long as the tang is over half, I don't really think it makes much of a difference when compared to a full rat tail tang. I'n fact I believe mora's to be a lot stronger than many full tang wooden handle knives (rat tail eg. helle, casstrom ect). This is because I expect that the plastic handle that mora use is a lot stronger than most wooden handles. When taking into consideration the reason why a tang would break (guess=vibrations from pressure/impacts on the blade), plastic would be the way to go. A wooden handle would be much less capable of insulating the tang from said vibrations than a plastic handle. Anyway, I'm probably entirely incorrect.

My questioning of the tang length is just for peace of mind I suppose:o

Cheers,

Alex

Sar-ian
15-11-2013, 02:34 PM
Hi Alex, as you're happy to do some work yourself, have you not considered having your own blade made, and fitting a handle, and making a sheath. There a number of knife makers on the forum, and I'm sure if you contact them they will be able to help. I have had a number of knife blanks made by Adam Savage, and hopefully, as I type, he's in the workshop with his "crack team of badgers", beavering away making up some blanks for me. There is loads of help and advice freely available on the forum, and I'm sure the leather work guy's will help you out, contact Biker-Bri he makes some really class leather gear, and a real nice guy to boot.

So, the names I have mentioned are only because I have dealt with them personally and I'm happy to recommend there services, but there are plenty of other people out there.

So you would end-up with a bespoke knife and sheath, and if like me, when I made my first knife, you'll get immense satisfaction every time you use it, in the end the decision is yours, but just thought it maybe a different option, all the best in whatever you decide, cheers Ian..........

Alexdermietzel97
15-11-2013, 10:55 PM
Hi Alex, as you're happy to do some work yourself, have you not considered having your own blade made, and fitting a handle, and making a sheath. There a number of knife makers on the forum, and I'm sure if you contact them they will be able to help. I have had a number of knife blanks made by Adam Savage, and hopefully, as I type, he's in the workshop with his "crack team of badgers", beavering away making up some blanks for me. There is loads of help and advice freely available on the forum, and I'm sure the leather work guy's will help you out, contact Biker-Bri he makes some really class leather gear, and a real nice guy to boot.

So, the names I have mentioned are only because I have dealt with them personally and I'm happy to recommend there services, but there are plenty of other people out there.

So you would end-up with a bespoke knife and sheath, and if like me, when I made my first knife, you'll get immense satisfaction every time you use it, in the end the decision is yours, but just thought it maybe a different option, all the best in whatever you decide, cheers Ian..........



Thanks for that mate:). Yes, I would love to make my own handle and everything, it would be great fun. I have actually been messing around with wood carving as of late. Here is my first carved figure as requested by my mother; 10795
It's supposed to be an elephant :ashamed:
It looks pretty shoddy I know, it looks a little better in real life though.

thanks,

Alex

Sar-ian
17-11-2013, 01:12 AM
Hey, shoddy is not a word I would use, rustic is more suitable, and I bet your mum loves it. Practice, and patience are the key, keep at it,, cheers Ian...

rossbird
17-11-2013, 08:10 PM
Hi Alex
To answer your original question. The 711 is a 3/4 tang Knife.
Personally, I'm not overly keen on wrist straps on my knives or axes. A out of control sharp blade is not something I want dancing around my person:)
If as you say, you beat the cr&p out of your knife, perhaps something a little more substantial would be a consideration, a Mora Robust for example!!!
Whatever you decide on, I hope you have lots of pleasure using it safely:)

Tony

Alexdermietzel97
17-11-2013, 08:36 PM
Hi Alex
To answer your original question. The 711 is a 3/4 tang Knife.
Personally, I'm not overly keen on wrist straps on my knives or axes. A out of control sharp blade is not something I want dancing around my person:)
If as you say, you beat the cr&p out of your knife, perhaps something a little more substantial would be a consideration, a Mora Robust for example!!!
Whatever you decide on, I hope you have lots of pleasure using it safely:)




Tony



I only beat the companion the see what it could handle really, I'd never be so rough in reality. Yes the mora robust looks lovely, thanks for the recommendation :).

Tony1948
17-11-2013, 08:41 PM
Thanks for that mate:). Yes, I would love to make my own handle and everything, it would be great fun. I have actually been messing around with wood carving as of late. Here is my first carved figure as requested by my mother; 10795
It's supposed to be an elephant :ashamed:
It looks pretty shoddy I know, it looks a little better in real life though.

thanks,

Alex Nice bit of carving Alex.