Which Stove is the best stove?

[KieranBroadfield]

So...

I have used both of these stoves, but do not own either... I want to buy one, but I am unsure which one.

Wondering if anyone has any of these stoves, I know that Martin has the type that looks like a Primus, it seemed to burn really well when he let me borrow it..

I just can't make up my mind on which one to buy. Can anyone suggest anything?

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[rik_uk3]

Without a doubt go for the first one, a 'Booster' clone, they can burn gas, paraffin and Coleman fuel and the burner can be mounted in a Trangia for winter camping use.

Nothing wrong with the second one but you have no different fuel options.

[KieranBroadfield]

Without a doubt go for the first one, a 'Booster' clone, they can burn gas, paraffin and Coleman fuel and the burner can be mounted in a Trangia for winter camping use.

Nothing wrong with the second one but you have no different fuel options.

I didn't realise the first one would run on gas, how blonde of me!

Looks like I will be going for that one!

Thanks for the help :)

[Valantine]

Go for the first one, and if you get an adapter off ebay you can use the picnic type gas cans, for long trips you will always be able to make a brew.
Don't try white spirit in it though, I did and well let's just say stand well back or lose the eyebrows ;)

[janso]

Remember; buy cheap, buy twice!! I would go for the 1st one, the primus clone, out of the two because of its adaptability. Using liquid fuels will cover it in soot though!!
Or save up a bit more and get something that is a bit more robust?

[KieranBroadfield]

Remember; buy cheap, buy twice!! I would go for the 1st one, the primus clone, out of the two because of its adaptability. Using liquid fuels will cover it in soot though!!
Or save up a bit more and get something that is a bit more robust?
the clones are well made, I've used them and they seem good, plus if they break, the chinese companies just send out spare parts without asking any questions:)

[KieranBroadfield]

Remember; buy cheap, buy twice!! I would go for the 1st one, the primus clone, out of the two because of its adaptability. Using liquid fuels will cover it in soot though!!
Or save up a bit more and get something that is a bit more robust?
the clones are well made, I've used them and they seem good, plus if they break, the chinese companies just send out spare parts without asking any questions:)

[rik_uk3]

Remember; buy cheap, buy twice!! I would go for the 1st one, the primus clone, out of the two because of its adaptability. Using liquid fuels will cover it in soot though!!
Or save up a bit more and get something that is a bit more robust?

They only soot up if you use dirty fuel or under prime before lighting. Never use petrol in them, stick with clean burning fuel like Aspen 4T or panel wipe. They will run on paraffin but make sure you prime the stove with meths well.

You can get a little Trangia adaptor
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/rik_uk3/DSCF2858.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/rik_uk3/media/DSCF2858.jpg.html)

and mount the stove in Trangia's or Trangia clones
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/rik_uk3/DSCF2863.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/rik_uk3/media/DSCF2863.jpg.html)

[KieranBroadfield]

I've never used unleaded in them, just panel wipe.. That worked well :)

cheers for the input guys

[happybonzo]

I didn't realise the first one would run on gas, how blonde of me!

Looks like I will be going for that one!

Thanks for the help :)

By "gas" I think the original poster,Rik-uk3, may mean "Petrol"

- just to add that Aspen fuel is worth its weight in gold - brilliant stuff. The one you want for a stove is Aspen 4T

[KieranBroadfield]

oh haha, oops

[rik_uk3]

By "gas" I think the original poster,Rik-uk3, may mean "Petrol"

- just to add that Aspen fuel is worth its weight in gold - brilliant stuff. The one you want for a stove is Aspen 4T

No, I meant gas as in standard propane/butane (or tri mix with added Isobutane) mix screw on gas; burns that as well as liquid fuel, the fuel line screws onto the gas instead of the pump.

Americans use the term 'white gas' for naptha fuel like Coleman. Aspen 4T (make sure you get the 4 and not Aspen 2 which is for 2 stroke engines) is great but the Welsh distribution network is really poor so panel wipe burns just as clean. I picked up 25l of 4T on a trip to West Wales which will keep me going a good while.

[janso]

Aspen ain't cheap! Supposedly the best fuel source for chainsaws!
I was thinking the stove was multi fuel like my primus; takes anything that burns inc diesel, vodka, etc as long as the jets are changed. They won't soot up if using 'clean' fuels like coleman

[Big T]

For stoves you want Aspen 4T.

The reason that Aspen 2T is used in Chainsaws and other 2 stroke engines is that it doesn`t "go off" when left for long periods. Traditional 2 stroke mix (Petrol with oil mixed together) will break down in time and can cause premature failure of 2 stroke engines. Aspen also aparently gives off less harmfull vapours too. Its expensive but aimed at the serious (expensive) professional user or the occasional user that cant be bothered draining the machine if its going to be stored unused for a while. I prefur to mix my own chainsaw fuel as I tend to go through a fair amount so it dosent have time to "go off"!

[rik_uk3]

Its not expensive really, 5 litres is a lot of cooking and still cheaper than gas cans (even in gas lanterns). Petrol stinks and a spillage will be smelt for ages, it clogs up jets etc, as a stove collector I'd not insult my cookers using the stuff;).

My good camping buddy Nigel said 'sod it, nowt wrong with using petrol' and he did, his lantern clogged up first then his stove on the next trip. He's now turned to the 'brass side' and is collecting classic brass Primus/Optimus/Radius/Svea stoves...I'm a bad influence lol.

If any of you want a reliable and cheap paraffin/kerosene stove for base camp look on ebay for Primus or Optimus No5, you can pick scruffy lookers up for a tenner and they are so so so simple to fettle. Simple design, silent burner and strong enough to put your Dutch oven on. A smaller version is the Primus 210 or Optimus 00, again, cheap to buy and fettle and pump out a lot of heat plus fold down for back packing I recently got a 210 for £8.40 and £3 delivery; all it needed was a new pump leather and away it went :o

This fella does some really nice videos, this is a nice chill out one...sit back and enjoy and he uses a nice stove and Vapalux lantern...these brass stoves really do have more 'class' than modern ones. He cooked four meals and boiled three litres of coffee on less than 0.4l of paraffin.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozgART3420Y

He runs this site, his English is very good and his service very prompt
http://www.techthor.com/lamp/default.asp

[JulesC]

Just to clarify - panel wipe - is that an industrial cleaning product eg http://www.paints4trade.com/panel-wipe-2296-p.asp ? Sorry if I'm being dim, I know its flammable but didn't know it's a manageable flame. Useful as that stuff appears cheaper than coleman fuel etc.

[Chubbs]

Just to clarify - panel wipe - is that an industrial cleaning product eg http://www.paints4trade.com/panel-wipe-2296-p.asp ? Sorry if I'm being dim, I know its flammable but didn't know it's a manageable flame. Useful as that stuff appears cheaper than coleman fuel etc.

I have looked at using panel wipe in the last few months but there seems to be different varieties. I never had much luck in finding which was the right one to use.

[rik_uk3]

Obviously don't get the water based panel wipe.

I've used this brand for a few years now
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5L-Can-Tetrosyl-Panel-Wipe-Pre-Paint-Wipe-Surface-Prep-Degreaser-Removes-Grease-/291088772964?pt=UK_Body_Shop_Supplies_Paint&hash=item43c63e2f64