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headshot
28-03-2014, 06:52 PM
i've allways used birch bark to start a fire,i find it ignites better than anything when using a conventional method ie matches or lighter and readily takes a spark from the steel but i've had my eye on some bracket/horse shoe fungi and fancied giving it a go,i've cut one today and wondered if anyone had any tips and advice on using/procesing it.
i believe you use the thin layer that resembles suede?
i had a pic of the cut piece showing the layers but my photobucket app is in backward mode at the mo,here's a pic of them on the beech tree
http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy264/headshot_05/Mobile%20Uploads/CAM00348_zpsiyhmpsl5.jpg (http://s798.photobucket.com/user/headshot_05/media/Mobile%20Uploads/CAM00348_zpsiyhmpsl5.jpg.html)
http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy264/headshot_05/Mobile%20Uploads/CAM00349_zpsqbytmr1g.jpg (http://s798.photobucket.com/user/headshot_05/media/Mobile%20Uploads/CAM00349_zpsqbytmr1g.jpg.html)
i found an old puffball in the woods that looked great tinder,had a texture of felt but wouldent take a spark at all even though it was bone dry
http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy264/headshot_05/Mobile%20Uploads/CAM00351_zpsgyljovx9.jpg (http://s798.photobucket.com/user/headshot_05/media/Mobile%20Uploads/CAM00351_zpsgyljovx9.jpg.html)
got a bag full of birch bark though which will keep me going a while...atb kev
David_JAFO
28-03-2014, 09:18 PM
hello,
You've hit on something similar to what I was thinking. Firstly did you try to ignite the puff ball by any other means, match/lighter etc..? I'd be dubious about bagging the puff ball for tinder then storing incase of the spores they produce (depends conditions where your storing). Anyway storing such likes bracket/horse shoe fungi has anyone stored such for any length of time? I have used such but never kept enough or stored for any length of time. Any feedback appreciated. Excellent photo's BTW.
Regards
David
shack
28-03-2014, 09:28 PM
Its the top bit just under the crusty outer layer you want, I shave the top off and dry it off if you get wiggling it to keep it flexi , in the past I've pumled it with a hammer to make it thinner and wider but this reduces the spark catching capabilities.
im sure plenty of 2 penneths on their way.
midas
28-03-2014, 09:58 PM
Hi Headshot,I found an article on www.sharkdesigns.co.uk/index.html its Shark tinderbox site.but they have a section ARTICLES n TIPS,which covers making Amaduo,n also many other bushcraft related things.if I remember ?rightly it involves much boiling for the best results.Mark Holden owner sent me a sample of Amaduo,as n additional treat with a Steel I purchaced from them,n I was most impressed how it catches a spark,but doesnot crumble like char cloth.etc.Interesting site.n nice people to do bussiness with.
headshot
28-03-2014, 11:48 PM
thanks for the replys...i did try and light the puffball,it just went black and would not ignite,i also dident fancy storing it due to the spores that were coming of in clouds.
i was thinking basicly what shack says about the bracket fungus though i wonder if it would be as quick to ignite as the amadou,seems an awfull amount of work to produce it...atb kev
luresalive
29-03-2014, 12:25 PM
you can just dry the amadou and then use a lighter, match or ferro rod to ignite it, but if you want it to take a spark from a flint and steel you're better preparing it with a lye solution or potassium nitrate.
David_JAFO
29-03-2014, 02:30 PM
hello,
I forgot about Shark Designs & http://www.beaverbushcraft.co.uk/ Aye they sent me a sample of tinder before & a packet of Love Hearts (sweets) :happy-clapping: really great people to speak to & deal with. I did ask & mention about taking sweets off strangers, said they sent them as they were there.. lol :wink:
Regards
David
Hi Headshot,I found an article on www.sharkdesigns.co.uk/index.html its Shark tinderbox site.but they have a section ARTICLES n TIPS,which covers making Amaduo,n also many other bushcraft related things.if I remember? rightly it involves much boiling for the best results.Mark Holden owner sent me a sample of Amaduo,as n additional treat with a Steel I purchaced from them,n I was most impressed how it catches a spark,but doesnot crumble like char cloth.etc.Interesting site.n nice people to do bussiness with.
shack
29-03-2014, 03:47 PM
http://www.primitiveways.com/Amadou%20substitutes.html
to be honest youtube and the like has a fair bit of stuff, the bracket fungus I prefer when sliced thin enough and dry does take a spark pretty easily and if I can avoid too much prep all the better, I was given a nice flint and steel set the other year and the fancy and prepped amadou that came with it takes as easily as char and super tough (asalready mentioned so a plus 1 from me) but ouch you pay for it, and I enjoy stuff for free:D I was surprised how much brackets can vary from species to species so get a good source and just take what you need as and when.
I love king alfred cakes/cramp balls and have a plentiful supply but when drying those you have a few powedery spore type moments, but then they appear to store well, I can imagine the puffballs getting uber messy, but learning is half the fun.
headshot
29-03-2014, 09:08 PM
yep just look at the puffball and there was clouds of spores,not such an easy job taking the top layer of the bracket as it has the same consistency as coconut shell,i have chipped a bit of and have some tinder drying,even after a day its holding a spark and it was wet yesterday so i will have a play about and just see what works best,thanks to everyone for the links T^...atb kev
Dave ward
30-03-2014, 12:51 AM
Here you go headshot, heres a video I made ages ago about how to use horse hoof fungi as tinder How to use Horses hoof fungus as tinder: https://youtu.be/8mjXcM57FnY hope it helps?
headshot
30-03-2014, 11:28 AM
spot on mate,thanks for that,i will have a play with it when its dry..atb kev
wildish64
30-03-2014, 12:02 PM
i've just got back from scotland and brought some back with me. ive also been looking into the processing methods.
it seems the most common one is to boil it in water with fire ash added then beat it flat and dry. another one seems to be just charring it which i did try but cat really say i found it any better than in its raw form.
fluffing it up helps catch a spark but as previously mentioned its hard going to get it to catch a spark with flint and steel.
well its just going to be a case of carrying on experimenting for my part but will be keeping an eye on this thread for more info
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