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Capsos
29-04-2014, 10:50 PM
Hey all I'm after a new rucksack that is specious enough for a couple days away or for a day out. I can't afford to much but would like something like this.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/30/3a8umety.jpg

Can anyone recommend any type ?

What Litre is best ? 25L or 35L

Thankyou.

ADz
29-04-2014, 11:00 PM
What's your budget? It would give us a better idea of what to recommend.

How about one of these...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Highlander-Pro-Force-Forces-Rucksack-Bergan-Olive-Green-25L-/300684898892?pt=UK_SportingGoods_BackpacksRucksack s_Bags_EH&hash=item460237724c

http://i.imgur.com/HZMDGEh.png

Capsos
29-04-2014, 11:02 PM
Hi ADz was looking at those. Can anyone recommend these ?

Law
29-04-2014, 11:58 PM
What's your budget? It would give us a better idea of what to recommend.

How about one of these...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Highlander-Pro-Force-Forces-Rucksack-Bergan-Olive-Green-25L-/300684898892?pt=UK_SportingGoods_BackpacksRucksack s_Bags_EH&hash=item460237724c

http://i.imgur.com/HZMDGEh.png

Is that waterproof?

Capsos
30-04-2014, 12:05 AM
I can spend about 35 to 40

Adam Savage
30-04-2014, 12:57 AM
Highlander packs tend to be pretty good quality. Not sure about comfort on long journeys, or the effective capacity of them.

I recently bought a 38L NI patrol pack, for £35, brand new. I think the 38L must be just the main compartment, because it holds much more than any other pack of the same stated size. It is also water resistant (I'd even say shower proof), but even so called "waterproof" packs could do with a 40L drysack for a liner (about £10-£15 for one of the Karrimor offerings).
It "should" hold plenty for a couple of nights or more, but it all depends on the weather and location you'll be out in. If you have to pack a huge sleeping bag, then you'll want to go for at least 100L, but for a small summer bag you'd get away with 40-50L (in a well designed pack). The size of your cooking kit also makes a difference. If you want to use 16cm billy cans, griddles, large kettles, etc, then you'll need a pack with a large single main compartment, or something with decent sized side pouches. If you have a tiny kettle and a couple of small nesting pans, then you don't need to worry too much about it.
Your form of shelter is another thing that makes a big difference. A small tent will take up several times the room that a silnylon tarp will, unless you strap it to the outside somewhere.

You're doing the right thing by asking for suggestions though, as buying a pack online can cause serious hassle. Most manufacturers vastly exaggerate the capacities of their packs, and the design of the compartments can halve the effective use of a packs capacity.

I'd go for the NI pack, but that's just my opinion. It's in the price range (if you shop about), and it'll hold a good amount of kit. :)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kombat-British-Northern-Assault-Rucksack-Unisex-adults/dp/B007KK7PUQ

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/518eAoVAaBL._SX385_.jpg

Forgot to add, I didn't buy mine from this supplier, but it's the same pack.

ADz
30-04-2014, 09:06 AM
Hi ADz was looking at those. Can anyone recommend these ?

How about the owner of the site? Its the pack what he uses/used and has a video on it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhvA0Rfr8Zo


Is that waterproof?

Not sure but you can always use a roll top dry bag of same capacity inside. I would use one whether the bag is supposed to be waterproof or not.

[edit] Yes it's supposed to be waterproof and seems a very nice budget pack.

Also the link I gave is for the 25L but there is also 35 and 45.

Martin
30-04-2014, 09:17 AM
I'm not aware of any rucksack that is waterproof and certainly not one in the price bracket you're looking at. The fabric flexes too much for them to be waterproof and you will almost certainly be disappointed if you believe any claims for waterproofness (my word). Most will keep off showers but after a day of walking in the hills, in driving rain or mist, water will seep in. As others have said, invest in a roll top dry bag/rucksack liner and your gear will stay dry whatever the weather.

Martin

Silverback
30-04-2014, 09:44 AM
I used a bright orange survival bag as a rucksack liner for over 25 years....never had a problem with leakage going up mountains and fown dales, falling in rivers, thrown in and out of helicopters, and best of all your survival bag is always with you

Valantine
30-04-2014, 11:11 AM
I use a Swedish LK70 purchased from military mart after seeing these reviews.
http://rucksackmania.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/the-swedish-lk70.html
http://weekendwoodsman.wordpress.com/2013/07/06/a-first-look-at-the-swedish-lk-70-rucksack/

ian c
30-04-2014, 07:51 PM
If you are going to get the NI patrol pack I would say go for the issue one as they are well made and you can get them cheap and in good condition off evil bay.

Capsos
30-04-2014, 08:02 PM
Ian what would I be searching for on there ?

ian c
30-04-2014, 08:06 PM
Just type in British army patrol pack and make sure it is a genuine issue.

Capsos
30-04-2014, 08:30 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/01/gymuhy2a.jpg

What about this one lol

Capsos
30-04-2014, 08:34 PM
So what L would be best ?

Adam Savage
30-04-2014, 08:50 PM
So what L would be best ?

I think the older NI packs were all the same, but people listed them as both 30L and 38L. They are much bigger than any 30L pack I've ever seen though.

midas
30-04-2014, 11:08 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/01/gymuhy2a.jpg

What about this one lol
Looks a bit expensive!!!To me.???????

alvino78
01-05-2014, 01:13 AM
i am in way affiliated with this company. but have used them in the past, hope this helps
http://www.militarymart.co.uk/index.php?_a=product&product_id=575
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/British-Army-NI-Patrol-Pack-DPM-rucksack-bergen-rucksac-/231142645570?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item35d12cdf42
id go for the evil bay one pal and a suitable liner or rubble sack to keep stuff dry. simply but affective.

Silverback
01-05-2014, 10:03 AM
Make sure your liner isn't a dark colour and you have yourself a signalling flag too....nothing worae than looking for an unconscious person on a wood wearing subdues clothing...in the dark. Looking for a conscious person can be bad enogh !!

Capsos
01-05-2014, 10:38 AM
Don't I know it as my sister in law is Dartmoor Search and a Rescue.

headshot
01-05-2014, 09:55 PM
just seen this for sale on our local buy/sell

http://www.manx.net/classifieds/miscellaneous/advert/561187/karrimor-55l-rucksack

Capsos
01-05-2014, 10:00 PM
Thanks headshot irl check it out.

Inkydink
07-05-2014, 03:29 PM
I recently bought a Gelert Explorer 65 litre which you can pick up on Amazon or Ebay for around £35. Not had a chance to take it out yet but loaded with all my gear its very comfortable and seems to be reasonable well built for a cheap one. It does lack pockets, theres one on either side but they are pretty flat so no big bulky items in there, though it does have the top pockets still. It also has straps on both sides and the top for sleeping bags or roll mats.

ADz
07-05-2014, 04:07 PM
I recently bought a Gelert Explorer 65 litre which you can pick up on Amazon or Ebay for around £35. Not had a chance to take it out yet but loaded with all my gear its very comfortable and seems to be reasonable well built for a cheap one. It does lack pockets, theres one on either side but they are pretty flat so no big bulky items in there, though it does have the top pockets still. It also has straps on both sides and the top for sleeping bags or roll mats.

But that is just a standard backpack, completely different to what the OP's style he was asking about?

Inkydink
08-05-2014, 12:46 AM
But that is just a standard backpack, completely different to what the OP's style he was asking about?

Its an option to consider and it fits his price bracket.

Silverback
08-05-2014, 09:53 AM
Welcome to the forum INKYDINK. It is custom and practice for new members to post on the introductions thread and say hi to the forum - whilst there could you make yourself familiar with forum ettiquette please.