Ooh la la The Girl tries out the brand new Wynnchester Adventurer Bedroll

[susannewilliams]

http://youtu.be/I8SV4G8Noz8

[Rasputin]

Thats bitchin Susanne, what does it weigh ?:rock-on:

[midas]

WOW!Sue.Thats clever,verastile too!Looks cosy,love the fur!ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Davepr]

Golly who needs tents and self inflates when you got that set up, soooooo jealous. Luxury wild camp at its best.

[susannewilliams]

Thats bitchin Susanne, what does it weigh ?:rock-on:

Weighs 3.8kg...so yeah it's heavy, but not THAT heavy. And it is VAST...

We are talking to Wynnchester about making one about half the volume which would be a different application but much lighter...

[susannewilliams]

Golly who needs tents and self inflates when you got that set up, soooooo jealous. Luxury wild camp at its best.

Yeah that is the general idea. To get out of the "plastic bubble" and much closer to the nature.

Also I really like not to have to be afraid of my fire...

The very idea of going to sleep near a fire in a nylon bivvy, with a nylon sleeping bag... Yikes....

[susannewilliams]

WOW!Sue.Thats clever,verastile too!Looks cosy,love the fur!ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Yeah I LOVE furs....

The reindeer skin is a bit heavy, but if we are with the dogs or on snowmobiles I have it with me anyway... the sleeping vest made of fur is a GREAT thing.

It sort of eases the friction between layers of wool and means you have extra warmth for your body while you are underway and only need a thin blanket for sleeping...

:-)

[Valantine]

like the idea of getting closer to nature and sleep safety T^

[susannewilliams]

Here is a note from another discussion about this bedrolll...hope it pleases....


I also have a tent, sleepingbag, exped mat setup - which I use in the mountains above the snowline.


There are in fact several points of this setup:


Getting out of the "tent bubble" directly into the nature. Directly under the stars...

But - you can do that with a bivvy and a mat and a sleeping bag. And yes sometimes I do.


Rough ground & Fire

But - I like to be able to throw down my sleeping system anywhere, even in thick brush, and I also like to have a fire. All this without having to worry about piercing/tearing/melting/destroying my expensive lightweight plastic/nylon (eg the Hunka.) when I am days from civilisation.

Really - Heaven help you if you are in contact with fire all bundled up in a nylon bag with down and more nylon...yikes...

For many of us, the fire is part of the overall experience, and I for one, really like not to have to be afraid of it. This is also why I wear woolen outerwear...
Especially in the far northern boreal forests, the ability to be near a fire is quite an important thing.
When its really cold you need either to be moving UL and using a VBL, or carrying more weight and expecting to use a fire. (Carrying an axe, bowsaw etc...)

Unless you are in the arctic regions. There you are either in a VBL or you need a fire.
I hate VBLs...naaasty...but if I am on a fast skiing trip up there then I am in a VBL, in a nylon tent with my down bag, believe me. grin

If you consider the polar explorers who are far from any trees, and thus are in nylon, and who in fact NEED the plastic/tent bubble - one of the major issues they face is the danger from their tents burning down. It happened to Mike Horn on his Arktos expedition. Very bad news.



The next point of it is a love of the traditional materials. And getting out of the "plastic bubble"

Canvas is in fact very breathable, and works in excellent harmony with wool and felted wool (also called Loden here).
It feels good to touch it, to sleep in it, to work with it.

I guess you could compare it to the feel of a vintage car, all wood and leather, as opposed to a modern plastic marvel. Each its own application...


Finally you may cry - But it's so heavy!

Well yes at 3.8kg it is heavy, but it is huge, and it is bombproof, and on the kind of trips this thing goes on, it is not about speedy-gonzalezing around the place.
It is about moving gently but strongly to a camp, and having a stable and secure base. It's about slowing the pace down, taking in the landscape, maybe doing a bit of stalking...

If I want to speedy-gonzalez, then I will take my Western Mountaineering Ultralight Downbag, my exped 7 downmat, and my eVent UL bivvy with cuben tarp, or my mountain tent....

We are in fact talking to Wynnchester about making a much narrower version which would be maybe 1/2 the weight. This thing is VAST....


Space!

It is VAST - This means that you can get another person in if you need to. VERY VERY useful when in truly challenging environments or when guiding...
All you gear easily fits inside.
Also if you do get stuck inside for many hours you don't really mind.





I think it really depends on what you see the benefits to be...

Pure warm for weight is one thing.
But there is also the directness to nature.
The aesthetic feeling of it.
No static
Fire resistance
Puncture/Tear resistance
Reparable in the field - especially in the cold.
Breathability (No place for Goretex in deep cold for instance. It does not work...)
Stretchiness - freedom of movement
Space
etc...

All different benefits to be considered...

Depends on what you are out there to go get...

:-)


It's a topic close to my heart.
I have been going in the mountains and the wilderness of all sorts for about 30 years now, in all sorts of different set-ups, and I really do find benefit in getting out of the plastic bubble.

So I do like to present these possibilities to those who may stare at this kind of thing and go - Huh?!

All good.

[Midge_Fodder]

I'm using the Czech army bedroll to see how well it works for me. I was always intending on getting one of these if I preferred "Waltzing Matilda", just couldn't drop that kind of money if I hated it.

[susannewilliams]

I'm using the Czech army bedroll to see how well it works for me. I was always intending on getting one of these if I preferred "Waltzing Matilda", just couldn't drop that kind of money if I hated it.


Why not visit me and try it out for a few days......then you will know.

[Midge_Fodder]

I'll bear that in mind cheers

[rickyamos]

After watching the video by Susanne I had to have one. Not taken it out yet but I know already I love it. Expensive yes, last you a lifetime I bet if taken care of and dried out after use.

[jus_young]

How the hell did I miss this one? I really like this idea for a static camp but wouldn't really suit my hiking needs.

[happybonzo]

Just like an Aussie Swag - http://www.wynnchester.co.uk/bedrolls/canvas-adventure-bedroll/

Swags (http://www.thestormkettleshop.com/userimages/BURKE-and-WILLS-SWAGS%282937712%29.htm)

[Silkhi]

Still a fan of this? Anyone else have any thoughts?

It's been on my wish list for quite some time but reviews are pretty scarce... The idea of being able to unfold it stuff in a wool blanket/sleeping bag and just crawl in at the end of a day is just so appealing :)

I often prefer to spend more of my time watching the world go by than fiddling with my DD hammock/Gore-tex bivi & tarp (or more rarely my trusty ol' Macpac microlight tent) and this looks to fit the bill - simplicity itself. It just looks so bombproof, spacious and comfy...

I don't mind the extra weight - I make a pretty good pack mule even if I am lazy in other ways :)

[juliangarner]

I realize I come to this thread very late in the day, but thought I'd share my experiences of this excellent bivy/bedroll/ swag, whatever one wants to call it.

I finally got one after a couple of years drooling just before Christmas (2015). Find it perfect in every way for winter overnighting in the forests behind my house in Fiskars, here in southern Finland. Very easy to deploy and - importantly - enter and exit; vital considerations at my time of life.

I rigged up a plashpalatka overhead to keep the snow off whilst bedding down/rise-and-shining, but the thing itself would survive the Blitz. Internal space is very welcome after years of struggling into too narrow accommodation; works perfectly with my Järven Exclusive inner on a 20 year old Thermorest, with masses of room to stretch and turn, read and think, sleep and dream.

The netted vent at the top of the tunnel means ample fresh air through the night and a nice view of the trees from a lying position, yet the insulating properties of the canvas mean a very comfortable inside temperature despite a nighttime low outside of -6 c. I didn't have a fire, though will in the future, but a hot water bottle made me feel sufficiently pampered.

All in all, the best night I can remember in a tent/tarp/hammock for many a long year, if not ever.

Weight? I kept my pack load down to 10 kilos, which is fine for me; arthritis means I can't walk long distances anyway and besides the bivvy is so luxurious I doubt the extra weight would rankle.

Wynnchester have an offer at the moment with £50 off, so go for it is my advice.

Best regards.

[Silkhi]

I bought one eventually, I have tried it a couple of times so far and had a great night's kip on both occasions. It is annoying to carry being large as well as heavy but then I just haven't managed to sort my act out yet, there will be a decent solution I am sure