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rodger55@blueyonder.co.uk
11-01-2015, 08:20 PM
HI
I recently bought a "Thermorest Neoair Venture" camping matress which must be manually inflated.
I've since heard that the moisture in your breath gets trapped in the chambers, and can rot the fabric.
Anyone got any thoughts on that?
I thought I might buy a pump if I can find one light enough.

jus_young
11-01-2015, 10:05 PM
This should do the job

http://www.cascadedesigns.com/ie/therm-a-rest/accessories/neoair-pump-sack/product

Just do a Google search to find the cheapest price.

Valantine
11-01-2015, 10:10 PM
That's one very expensive sleeping mat. With modern materials there shouldn't be a problem.
If you're worried then make something like this --> http://www.rei.com/product/829645/exped-schnozzel-pumpbag

Valantine
11-01-2015, 10:11 PM
jus_young beat me to while I was typing lol

ADz
12-01-2015, 05:35 AM
Alternatively there is an electric pump, small/compact and only 66g..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/THERMAREST-NEOAIR-MINI-PUMP-/231446958141

I've just ordered one for my Xlite and Xtherm mats, they don't take long to blow up by mouth but using this would be much easier after a day of hiking.

Oh and I wouldn't worry about the material rotting just by blowing them up with breath (However it could condense in Winter), they are modern and high quality materials, It shouldn't be a problem in warmer temps. I have never heard of anybody's Thermarest rotting, these mats have been around for a long time.

jus_young
12-01-2015, 06:06 AM
It's not rotting that is the problem, the thermal properties can be lost over time due to a continual build up of moisture. The problem is worse with down filled mats as the down starts to clog together.

saxonaxe
12-01-2015, 08:21 AM
Make a few camping trips to Wales and find a friendly Dragon to inflate the mattress. Hot breath = dried out mattress..:jumping-joy:



(sorry just trying to help...;) )

TheDaddy187
12-01-2015, 08:33 AM
i have a self inflating jobbie...

a little more weight but no problems like you described...

ADz
12-01-2015, 09:00 AM
i have a self inflating jobbie...

a little more weight but no problems like you described...

Not just more weight but it will be a lot more bulky. The Thermarests pack down to size of can of coke or beer.

TheDaddy187
12-01-2015, 09:09 AM
i managed to squeeze it along with my sleeping bag into my sleeping bag case...

mines only about an inch thick when inflated so not like some of the more bulky ones you get...

OakAshandThorn
12-01-2015, 12:26 PM
My Trail Pro is self-inflating, though for extra expansion (or "loft", I guess) I'll put a few breaths into it. For this pad, that's OK, can't say for yours, but here's a link to the owner's manual: http://media.cascadedesigns.com/pdf/Air_Mat_Brochure_EN.pdf
I know some of the Big Agnes pads use a bag that comes with for inflation, though I doubt it would be compatible with a Thermarest.

Valantine
12-01-2015, 04:33 PM
Why not use your breath when using when camping and then when you get home use a pump to inflate and deflate a few times to remove the moisture (some pumps have reverse to deflate)

TheDaddy187
12-01-2015, 04:46 PM
maybe try putting one of those silica gel packs inside to soak up moisture?

as long as its in the paper wrap it shouldnt effect the material...

whether it would effect it if it was loose i dont know...

just replace it every now and then to keep the inside fresh and moisture free...

FishyFolk
12-01-2015, 05:00 PM
Only got one of the early ones. And they always seem very narrow to me. I toss and turn a lot at night, so i end up rolling off them entirely. Thank the gods for hammocks :-)

jus_young
12-01-2015, 09:17 PM
Must admit that when I am ground dwelling I do like the comfort of my Thermarest XLite. Five centimetres of luxury as opposed to the previous self inflating mat at half the thickness.

happybonzo
13-01-2015, 05:54 AM
I've been told on more than one occasion that the Thermorests and the VauDe mats are made in the same factory... I often wonder how many of the rather specialist products we use and buy this may apply to?

- and just to add that Alpkit make pretty good mats as well

ADz
13-01-2015, 08:22 AM
Must admit that when I am ground dwelling I do like the comfort of my Thermarest XLite. Five centimetres of luxury as opposed to the previous self inflating mat at half the thickness.

+1

Tigger004
13-01-2015, 12:00 PM
I have the Thermorest neo air all season and have a couple of ways to pump it,
the first is battery powered and in a stealth camp may prove noisy (not too loud), my second option is the neo air tap which allows use of any old bag, plastic or stuff sack (does involve making a hole in the bag of choice)

1, [URL="http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=bl_sr_outdoors?ie=UTF8&field-keywords=Minflator&index=garden-uk&search-type=ss"] about 13 quid for the miniflator (very small and light - better than the thermarest version)
2, http://www.facewest.co.uk/Thermarest-NeoAir-AirTap.html about 9 quid for the airtap (comes with a couple of plastic bags)

Both work well, Regards Jeff

rodger55@blueyonder.co.uk
15-01-2015, 07:18 PM
Some great ideas on here guys. Thanks for the comments.
I think I'm going to get the little Thermarest battery pump.
Small and light and if I'm lucky the lovely Lenin will help me out with the cash.
Thanks again

Magicdave
12-04-2015, 08:53 PM
It's recommended that airbeds are stored inflated, then with the valve opened, to combat this problem. I don't know how effective it is.