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Law
17-05-2015, 01:19 PM
I've been experiencing lower back pain the last few trips, is this generally because my pack is to high or too low? (note - this is unrelated to my previous post on metal back supports, as I've experienced the pain both with and without them)

ADz
17-05-2015, 04:09 PM
This would obviously depend on what pack you use and how you wear it. The weight (Or most of it) should be on your hips.

OakAshandThorn
17-05-2015, 06:36 PM
Aye, if the pack has a waist belt, the weight should be centred on the hips. I've had the same thing happen before from either not using the waist strap (bad idea for distance hikes) or from not organising my pack properly. It takes some fiddling around to find out what works and what doesn't.

David_JAFO
17-05-2015, 07:43 PM
hello,
I was taught HM Armed Forces regarding the correct procedure for carrying you Bergen as to avoid 'Bergen Bounce' by wearing the Bergen high up on the back & the weight distribution slightly heavier on the shoulders than on the hips. Please make sure your Bergen is also central by keep so higher, this means that your legs take more of the strain, thus reducing the risk of back injury from leaning against the Bergen straps for prolonged periods of time. I agree with OakAshandThorn's comment It takes some fiddling around to find out what works and what doesn't.
Regards
David

laika
18-05-2015, 10:23 AM
Make sure heavy items are packed nearest to your back and higher up the pack and that waist and sternum straps are properly adjusted. Shoulder straps should be tensioned to subtend an angle of 45 - 60 degrees. The aim is to keep the centre of gravity close to your spine and to distribute the weight to the hips via the waist strap.

OakAshandThorn
18-05-2015, 02:50 PM
No kidding? I thought that was just me...but that's how I pack for my trips now. Bulky stuff to the top or on the top outside of the pack. Too much at the bottom causes me to lean forward more, straining the muscles in the lower back...latissimus dorsi, I think they're called.

laika
19-05-2015, 09:39 AM
No kidding? I thought that was just me...but that's how I pack for my trips now. Bulky stuff to the top or on the top outside of the pack. Too much at the bottom causes me to lean forward more, straining the muscles in the lower back...latissimus dorsi, I think they're called.

Yep, exactly. The precise placement will depend on pack length and activity e.g. when climbing I'd pack the heavy stuff slightly lower to avoid the possibility of a tank slapper, but the general principle should be to minimally disrupt your centre of gravity so, as David said, the weight is pushing down on to your feet.

cranmere
20-05-2015, 06:22 PM
After fit the other thing to look at is your core strength. Strong core abdominal muscles deals with an awful lot of back ache by stablising your entire torso. I like Pilates, I actively dislike yoga because its emphasis is far too much on extreme flexibility.

Romanista77
20-05-2015, 06:55 PM
I get back pain too. My solution was ultralight backpacking.
When I'm bushcrafting, I go out with very minimal and light weight equipment.

A great book on this is "Participating in Nature" by Tomas J. Elpel

OakAshandThorn
21-05-2015, 02:30 AM
I get back pain too. My solution was ultralight backpacking.
When I'm bushcrafting, I go out with very minimal and light weight equipment.

A great book on this is "Participating in Nature" by Tomas J. Elpel
Cutting back weight has definitely helped me out as well. I'm not quite ultralight, but lightweight. I did a lot of re-thinking in my kit structure, and brought down things down to around 8 kg/18 lb base weight for winter :). Still playing around with my three-season base weight.
Sometimes it doesn't hurt to get back to basics :).