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FishyFolk
31-03-2016, 07:27 AM
A day may come when a man has enough stoves...
but it is not THIS day!!
http://s6.postimg.org/8dfmfc9dd/20160331_IMG_0779.jpg
From left to right...and some of these are really cheap.
A no brand knock off of a jet boil, a no brand wood gas stove ordered from china, two Optimus 111T, Go Systems multiflex stove and behind it a 3£ butane stove from Ebay, next to it another purchase from ebay with a converter for the gas bottle (works but not very safe), Trangia 27, and a no brand trangia like cook set next to it, and my trusted solo cook kit with a trangia like burner. ...
None of these cost me more than 20£ except the jet boil knock off, that was 30£ and not worth it...it works fine, just not worth paying that much for something that boils water...
Woody
31-03-2016, 09:15 AM
Hello sir, now that's quite a collection there... Sounds like you would be the perfect person to give me some advice... I'm in the market for a cooking system, pans and all but I'm overwhelmed with choice, quantity etc. So maybe you can help me make a informed decision...
I need something suited for 2adults+2kids , not too expensive and that hopefully packs small and light ( holy grail right?) ...
...and also a solo cooking system just for me, versatile ( multifuel?...or not?) , light+small, and that will work in cold, windy conditions, preferably where it all fits in the pans etc.
I like this one :
http://www.ravenlore.co.uk/html/stove_use.html
Do think this is good?
Maybe I should make one huh.
Woody
31-03-2016, 09:15 AM
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!! Thank you in advance
Woody
31-03-2016, 09:17 AM
Maybe there's one system that will scale up/down and serve the family and/or solo trip. Wow now that would be cool...
FishyFolk
31-03-2016, 12:32 PM
Maybe there's one system that will scale up/down and serve the family and/or solo trip. Wow now that would be cool...
What you need for the family is a trangia 25. It is kind of bulky, but relatively light weight. And the good news is that nowhere is it written in stone that you always have to carry the whole set.
ANyway, it will give you a frying pan, two casseroles and a tea pot, with a nice combined cook stand and wind screen. They are a bit pricey, but there are many cheaper knock offs. I got mine used in a charity shop for 4£.
What really makes it bulky though, is the cook stand. It is an excellent piece of the kit and I recomend using it as it is very steady and does the job very well. But if you only need to bring the small pot or the tea kettle to cook in, it is totall overkill. So get or make your own stand for the burner. Here is a link to what I mean:
https://www.google.no/search?q=trangia+cook+stand&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQ1vXO6OrLAhWm_HIKHVqAD4YQsAQIGw&biw=1600&bih=775
anyway, it will lessen the bulk considerably. You can always imprivise a wind screen.
You can also get a butane burner, and even a multifuel burner for the Trangia cook sets. Else for a solo kit, just make or buy a cheap wood gas stove or similar. And find yourself a tea kettle with a big lid. Like the one in my pucture above that sits on the Optimus stove. That way you have both a kettle with a poring spout, that can be pressed into service as a billy can for cooking other things. The big lid will make it easy to clean. To save some money you can just use the tea kettle from the trangia :-)
But what I used to do for solo trips, is to just find a separate cook stand for the trangia burner, or just place it between som stones, take the small pot, with the tea kettøe nested within it. Plus a folding wind screen. It should all fit in the small pot.
Woody
31-03-2016, 12:48 PM
Thank you Sir.
Brilliant advice. Will look into it... Especially if they do multifuel burners too. Wood is preferred but sometimes fires are not convenient or permitted. So versatility is key.
Tusen takk
FishyFolk
31-03-2016, 01:01 PM
Thank you Sir.
Brilliant advice. Will look into it... Especially if they do multifuel burners too. Wood is preferred but sometimes fires are not convenient or permitted. So versatility is key.
Tusen takk
They do but it costs 3 times more than the cook set...lol
My trangia meths burner came with a pre-heater so that it is easier to fire up in cold temps.
But in cold temperatures I just use my wood gas stove, or the optimus :-)
Woody
31-03-2016, 01:06 PM
They do but it costs 3 times more than the cook set...lol
My trangia meths burner came with a pre-heater so that it is easier to fire up in cold temps.
But in cold temperatures I just use my wood gas stove, or the optimus :-)
So combining this with the IKEA stove or a home made woodgas stove ( the can within the can) is the ideal solution I thinks.... Hmmm the plot thickens...
Thank you
FishyFolk
31-03-2016, 01:11 PM
You can probably use the ikea stove as a cook stand for the trangia stove as well :-)
I hav eused mine with the wood gas stove as a cook stand :-)
Woody
31-03-2016, 01:18 PM
You can probably use the ikea stove as a cook stand for the trangia stove as well :-)
I hav eused mine with the wood gas stove as a cook stand :-)
My thoughts exactly... Then it all works together if, as and when. Perfect.[emoji122]
Thank you again...
FishyFolk
31-03-2016, 02:16 PM
You could also get an extra trangia meths burner from ebay to keep permanently with your ikea stove. That way, when you need to heat up two things at the same time, you have two stoves :-)
And as i said on top...the day may come when a man has enough stoves... but it is not THIS day!
Woody
31-03-2016, 02:23 PM
You could also get an extra trangia meths burner from ebay to keep permanently with your ikea stove. That way, when you need to heat up two things at the same time, you have two stoves :-)
And as i said on top...the day may come when a man has enough stoves... but it is not THIS day!
Yep. I had already thought of that and I also came across this article ,maybe worth considering for the solo adventures...
http://adventuresinstoving.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/cooking-with-clikstand.html
Not sure about clickstand but there are plenty of clones and other similar stands....
FishyFolk
31-03-2016, 02:30 PM
In this video I use the cook stand I got for mine, with a small tea kettle I have. As you can see meths stove are no problem in winter conditions. What I do is to dip a stick in the fuel, and light that,
then I just drop the burning stick directly in the fuel. When it gets hot enough, it will light :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzjqRr47NuQ
Humakt
31-03-2016, 05:42 PM
Like everyone else I have more than one stove, but not quite the magpie as others.
All options covered though...
Gas:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1688/25551976393_d519f11c19_z.jpg
Meths:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1561/26088280311_e18d3be2c8_z.jpg
Wood burner:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1684/26128679186_c03e3b492a_z.jpg
And not forgetting nature's own stove:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1633/25552027123_dc793378cd_z.jpg
bopdude
31-03-2016, 05:46 PM
Hi FF, while you're on the subject, what you recommend as a cold weather back up, assuming that all / most of the cooking was done on wood burning stove.
By cold, I mean Northern Sweden in January.
Thanks.
FishyFolk
31-03-2016, 08:36 PM
Hi FF, while you're on the subject, what you recommend as a cold weather back up, assuming that all / most of the cooking was done on wood burning stove.
By cold, I mean Northern Sweden in January.
Thanks.
Depends how you will move. But a multifuel stove that can burn petrol (white gas) or parrafine would be the best choice. Personally I preffer to use parrafine as fuel as it is simply safer if you have a leak as it is not as volatile. I actually use parrafine based charcoal starter as fuel. Basically beaouse it's cheap, burns clean and and you find it in every supermarket year round up here.
For a specific stove I would go with an Optimus 111 type stove or one of the modern Omnifuel Primus that can burn both parafine, petrol and diesel, or an Optimus Nova +.
But if you need to purchase, make sure you know the inns and outs of it before you go. Anyway, the Omnifuel and the Nova tops all tests here in Norway, and are very popular ammong outdoors people for winter use.
One thing is for sure. Leave your butane stoves at home...
FishyFolk
31-03-2016, 08:37 PM
Nice, Humakt :-)
bopdude
31-03-2016, 09:01 PM
Depends how you will move. But a multifuel stove that can burn petrol (white gas) or parrafine would be the best choice. Personally I preffer to use parrafine as fuel as it is simply safer if you have a leak as it is not as volatile. I actually use parrafine based charcoal starter as fuel. Basically beaouse it's cheap, burns clean and and you find it in every supermarket year round up here.
For a specific stove I would go with an Optimus 111 type stove or one of the modern Omnifuel Primus that can burn both parafine, petrol and diesel, or an Optimus Nova +.
But if you need to purchase, make sure you know the inns and outs of it before you go. Anyway, the Omnifuel and the Nova tops all tests here in Norway, and are very popular ammong outdoors people for winter use.
One thing is for sure. Leave your butane stoves at home...
Thaks for the in depth pointers, I'll take a look at them :)
Woody
01-04-2016, 01:07 PM
Like everyone else I have more than one stove, but not quite the magpie as others.
All options covered though...
Gas:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1688/25551976393_d519f11c19_z.jpg
Meths:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1561/26088280311_e18d3be2c8_z.jpg
Wood burner:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1684/26128679186_c03e3b492a_z.jpg
And not forgetting nature's own stove:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1633/25552027123_dc793378cd_z.jpg
Hello, what wood burner is that please?
Cheers
Humakt
01-04-2016, 06:50 PM
Hello, what wood burner is that please?
Cheers
It's a home-made one. Google 'Nimblewill Nomad stove' and you can download the plans for free.
I made mine from stainless steel (a local sheet metal worker gave me some off cuts for free) so it doesn't rust (but was a right sod cutting all that stainless) and I made mine a bit bigger (mainly wider) than the plans. That's the beauty of making your own - you can tailor it to your own needs.
As an addendum I would say that, though I am pleased to have made it, I wouldn't do it again. Cutting that stainless really was a chore (and making it from mild steel seems daft to me - it'll rust like buggery after the first burn). But I made mine some time ago, before I'd heard of the Honey Stove. If I was looking for such a thing today then I'd buy the Honey Stove, hands down. People say the Honey Stove is difficult to put together. That's nonsense. A friend has one and it's just as easy/difficult to put together as the Nimblewill Nomad stove. They're both about slotting bits of thin steel together. So unless you have sausages for fingers and your idea of finesse is hitting everything with a big hammer I'd buy myself a Honey Stove.
Woody
01-04-2016, 09:30 PM
It's a home-made one. Google 'Nimblewill Nomad stove' and you can download the plans for free.
I made mine from stainless steel (a local sheet metal worker gave me some off cuts for free) so it doesn't rust (but was a right sod cutting all that stainless) and I made mine a bit bigger (mainly wider) than the plans. That's the beauty of making your own - you can tailor it to your own needs.
As an addendum I would say that, though I am pleased to have made it, I wouldn't do it again. Cutting that stainless really was a chore (and making it from mild steel seems daft to me - it'll rust like buggery after the first burn). But I made mine some time ago, before I'd heard of the Honey Stove. If I was looking for such a thing today then I'd buy the Honey Stove, hands down. People say the Honey Stove is difficult to put together. That's nonsense. A friend has one and it's just as easy/difficult to put together as the Nimblewill Nomad stove. They're both about slotting bits of thin steel together. So unless you have sausages for fingers and your idea of finesse is hitting everything with a big hammer I'd buy myself a Honey Stove.
Thank you Humakt, that is really helpful.
rik_uk3
02-04-2016, 10:30 AM
A few of mine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65qz4kIpV9c
Certainly look at the Trangia system, the 25 is the bigger set for a family, the 27 the smaller set for two people.
I still like the classic brass paraffin stoves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d51ZxGjnCDk
FishyFolk
02-04-2016, 12:30 PM
A few of mine
Certainly look at the Trangia system, the 25 is the bigger set for a family, the 27 the smaller set for two people.
Sorry about that, I always get numbers confused :-)
I have corrected my post...
An lovely stoves :-)
Woody
02-04-2016, 06:49 PM
Sorry about that, I always get numbers confused :-)
I have corrected my post...
An lovely stoves :-)
Got that , thank you!!!
I did figure it out , but what I'm struggling with , is the idea that they don't do the trangia 25 in stainless ( or do they?)
just aluminium, which is a bit annoying as some veggies, like spinach and kale taste a bit funny if cooked in aluminium...( my boy refuses to eat meat...and we are all pretty much vegetarian!!!) plus there is the aluminium carcinogen question etc..[emoji37]
So I'm looking into alternative (stainless steel = cheaper+heavy. VS titanium= lite+expensive)
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FishyFolk
03-04-2016, 01:23 AM
Got that , thank you!!!
I did figure it out , but what I'm struggling with , is the idea that they don't do the trangia 25 in stainless ( or do they?)
just aluminium, which is a bit annoying as some veggies, like spinach and kale taste a bit funny if cooked in aluminium...( my boy refuses to eat meat...and we are all pretty much vegetarian!!!) plus there is the aluminium carcinogen question etc..[emoji37]
So I'm looking into alternative (stainless steel = cheaper+heavy. VS titanium= lite+expensive)
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Any more ideas are welcome and very appreciated.[emoji106]
I looked at what pots I actually used in the Trangia set. And that was the large cooking pot, the kettle and the frying pan.
Then I purchased a GSi stainless tea kettle and a 1600ml MSR Stowaway cooking pot + a non stick camp fire frying pan.
The GSI kettle will jsut barely nest in the MSR sagull if put the lid of the GSI gettle upside down. And leaves you spave for putting som goodies like ta bags, sugar, spices etc inside the pot.
The frying pan don,t nest, but it is small and light, so no problem. You can also put a trangia burner in the tea kettle. Get yourself a collpasible wind shield and you are all set.
Woody
03-04-2016, 02:51 AM
I looked at what pots I actually used in the Trangia set. And that was the large cooking pot, the kettle and the frying pan.
Then I purchased a GSi stainless tea kettle and a 1600ml MSR Stowaway cooking pot + a non stick camp fire frying pan.
The GSI kettle will jsut barely nest in the MSR sagull if put the lid of the GSI gettle upside down. And leaves you spave for putting som goodies like ta bags, sugar, spices etc inside the pot.
The frying pan don,t nest, but it is small and light, so no problem. You can also put a trangia burner in the tea kettle. Get yourself a collpasible wind shield and you are all set.
Yep, awesome. Thanks
FishyFolk
03-04-2016, 06:29 AM
Yep, awesome. Thanks
Oh...the fryin pan from a trangia set, will nest well under the MSR pot. Just get the non stick version...but do not take my word for it, as I have not checked that it will actually work.
But will do once I get my socks on and I am out in the shed.
Else taking the lad ice fishing on a lake today, arctic charr for dinner, and I have the perfect frying pan for it :-)
Woody
03-04-2016, 10:37 AM
Thank you for all the advice, it is really appreciated.
I'll post my set up as soon as I get it...
Wow, fishing in the Arctic. lucky you and lucky lad.
I'm strangely attracted to the artic landscape, not sure why... Previous life perhaps?
Whilst most people dream of moving somewhere hot, like Bahamas or something, I instead wish for a lottery win so I can buy a piece of land up in the boreal forest ( any of the continents) , build a log cabin and live off the land.
One can just dream, realistically, I'll probably just buy a small woodland around Scotland or North Wales and do it there instead...
Still a dream, but managing expectations.... :)
...sorry , off the subject, happy fishing sir.
Show us your catch...
rik_uk3
03-04-2016, 11:09 AM
I've gone off the idea of the Arctic, my health could not cope, however...when the wife retires later this year we'll be spending three months a year on Gran Canaria. In the words of 'Oddball' I'll be drinking wine, eating cheese and soaking up some rays :)
FishyFolk
03-04-2016, 02:01 PM
I've gone off the idea of the Arctic, my health could not cope, however...when the wife retires later this year we'll be spending three months a year on Gran Canaria. In the words of 'Oddball' I'll be drinking wine, eating cheese and soaking up some rays :)
We have a house in Thailand, the wife is there right now, sp me are getting in some dad and lad time :-)
rik_uk3
05-04-2016, 06:23 PM
Lucky man Rune but I suspect the humidity would clash with my lungs :(
Back on track a bit and not aimed at particular members.
I've owned and used pots and pans made from different metals ranging from cast iron to Titanium. For heat spread/even cooking aluminium is the best, stainless steel less so, cast iron even less and Titanium comes out tops if you like your food burned. My first pan set was a pair of army mess tins, then moved on to 'Bulldog' mess set, both aluminium. The aluminium Trangia pans are great and I've yet to melt one when using on a fire or multifuel stove. I met a couple of 'bushcrafters' who moaned about food sticking but then having seen these two cook on a weekend camp...lets just say they can't cook lol.
If you don't cook much at home at least practice making camp food with your setup at home both stove and pan set.
Another good pan to use are steel Paella pans, you can get a good sized one for around a tenner off ebay and they are easier to 'season' than cast iron and a lot lighter
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Stainless steel or aluminium pots can make good ovens on top of a stove or hot embers
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Woody
07-04-2016, 07:19 PM
This looks delicious, now I know this is not a cooking forum but fancy sharing the recipe for this one??? Good tip on the paella pans... Cheers
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160407/9a20756fc1be3b2dcb52525a443e48a2.jpg
Woody
08-04-2016, 10:16 AM
Bump! I'm sorry I highjacked this thread from the word go.
To put it right I've copied the original post by the very helpful Mr ."fishy folk" , so we can all get back on track.
Apologies , I'm kind of new to this forum stuff...
Here goes:
SHOW US YOUR STOVE
A day may come when a man has enough stoves...
but it is not THIS day!!
http://s6.postimg.org/8dfmfc9dd/20160331_IMG_0779.jpg
From left to right...and some of these are really cheap.
A no brand knock off of a jet boil, a no brand wood gas stove ordered from china, two Optimus 111T, Go Systems multiflex stove and behind it a 3£ butane stove from Ebay, next to it another purchase from ebay with a converter for the gas bottle (works but not very safe), Trangia 27, and a no brand trangia like cook set next to it, and my trusted solo cook kit with a trangia like burner. ...
None of these cost me more than 20£ except the jet boil knock off, that was 30£ and not worth it...it works fine, just not worth paying that much for something that boils water...
treehouse
12-04-2016, 01:08 AM
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Homemade (nightmare). £3 from Morrisons. Drink can kettle fits in the hole in the top. Boils pretty quick. I like to just use twigs etc. and maybe some charcoal.
-Tim-
13-04-2016, 07:23 PM
My new toy an Ezy Stove (Rocket Stove) C/W cheese burgers
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1667/25986130950_60a370d1ea_c.jpg
rik_uk3
02-07-2016, 12:43 PM
Sorry about that, I always get numbers confused :-)
I have corrected my post...
An lovely stoves :-)
Here is one for you, a British Army No12 stove, designed to burn diesel or paraffin/kerosene, the control spindle and built in cleaning needle are standard Optimus parts...seen here with a little heater unit.
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C-Dog
21-08-2016, 06:35 PM
Hi Chaps,
I have a few stoves, wood burning, along with kero and white gas (petrol) models.
However, my choice when out and about, would be my Russian army Optimus 8R clone, dated from around 1990's.
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Packs up small, runs on petrol or Aspen 4, with minimal moving parts. Very easy to prime with either methy in the traditional way (or perhaps wood chips etc) or using fuel from the tank. Very good flame control and works in all weathers. One advantage here is that it is self-pressurising, so no flare-ups and has a built in self-cleaning needle for the jet. The spec states it boils 1 litre of water in around seven mins, but this one does it a lot quicker.
The best thing was the cost of 15 euros and another 15 euros for post and packing from Portugal. For a new, unused petrol stove, it is pretty good.
For anyone wanting to purchase such a stove, then here is the link. Payment via Paypal.
https://olx.pt/anuncio/foges-a-gasolina-militares-IDuzZOd.html
Here are some flame shots.
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The point is, whatever the weather (wet wood and in the snow), with a little fuel this will always work and will work well. I have done serious cooking on this, not just stew.
Happy days chaps.
rik_uk3
22-08-2016, 09:54 AM
They are a good stove, I bought a job lot from Germany in 2005 for €17 each delivered !!!!! Known as 'R8' by stove collectors.
FishyFolk
22-08-2016, 12:19 PM
Hi Chaps,
I have a few stoves, wood burning, along with kero and white gas (petrol) models.
However, my choice when out and about, would be my Russian army Optimus 8R clone, dated from around 1990's.
13768
13769
Packs up small, runs on petrol or Aspen 4, with minimal moving parts. Very easy to prime with either methy in the traditional way (or perhaps wood chips etc) or using fuel from the tank. Very good flame control and works in all weathers. One advantage here is that it is self-pressurising, so no flare-ups and has a built in self-cleaning needle for the jet. The spec states it boils 1 litre of water in around seven mins, but this one does it a lot quicker.
The best thing was the cost of 15 euros and another 15 euros for post and packing from Portugal. For a new, unused petrol stove, it is pretty good.
For anyone wanting to purchase such a stove, then here is the link. Payment via Paypal.
https://olx.pt/anuncio/foges-a-gasolina-militares-IDuzZOd.html
Here are some flame shots.
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The point is, whatever the weather (wet wood and in the snow), with a little fuel this will always work and will work well. I have done serious cooking on this, not just stew.
Happy days chaps.
*droooooool"
rik_uk3
24-08-2016, 04:31 PM
One for you FF, fifty years old, fuel in it from from 2010 and it lit first time
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FishyFolk
24-08-2016, 05:17 PM
One for you FF, fifty years old, fuel in it from from 2010 and it lit first time
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What stove is it?
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