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mick91
04-06-2016, 06:34 PM
Long story short I need suggestions for a popular choice of mid range bushcraft knife. Not looking for advice to buy as such, I'm looking at doing a bang for your buck comparison on fixed blades. Lower end, the venerable Mora is making an appearance. Lower high end the fallkniven F1. But I need something between those brackets. Any ideas folks?

Woody
04-06-2016, 07:04 PM
Hi Mick
How about these:

http://www.thebushcraftstore.co.uk/cudeman-bushcraft-forest-knife---great-scandi-ground-knife-17265-p.asp

http://www.greenmanbushcraft.co.uk/cutting-tools/knives/buck-selkirk-bushcraft-knife.htm

mick91
04-06-2016, 07:05 PM
Hi Mick
How about these:

http://www.thebushcraftstore.co.uk/cudeman-bushcraft-forest-knife---great-scandi-ground-knife-17265-p.asp

http://www.greenmanbushcraft.co.uk/cutting-tools/knives/buck-selkirk-bushcraft-knife.htm
Cudeman are supposedly ok actually. I'm torn between them and condor

Woody
04-06-2016, 07:06 PM
Then there's this one
http://www.thebushcraftstore.co.uk/eka-nordic-w12-bushcraft-survival-knife---wood-23142-p.asp

Woody
04-06-2016, 07:08 PM
Either way, I bet they're not a patch on the Buzzard... 😉

mick91
04-06-2016, 07:10 PM
Oh now I like that actually. They're going up against some stiff competition, at the very least a spyderco bradley bowie and possibly a Medford. And I like to think not ;) haha

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Woody
05-06-2016, 12:22 AM
Either way, I bet they're not a patch on the Buzzard... 😉
Then again, you were after mid range , not top notch!

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160604/ba09a2511b55d9c1655c8f6d9e5e3cff.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160604/c2f38d748195e7eaaa24fe4628a3de61.jpg


So the Buzzard has to wait for the " Top Bushcraft knives " thread...

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mick91
05-06-2016, 12:30 AM
Haha. I wouldn't feel right reviewing my own knife. Although it's always good problem solving for myself. They'll be another one of those pics shortly ;)

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shepherd
05-06-2016, 07:26 PM
what about this mate... very popular knife http://www.thebushcraftstore.co.uk/condor-bushlore-knife---handle-choice-1775-p.asp

mick91
05-06-2016, 07:32 PM
what about this mate... very popular knife http://www.thebushcraftstore.co.uk/condor-bushlore-knife---handle-choice-1775-p.asp
I had a few suggestions for that over at BCUK actually. My mate jonnie has one I could test with

Woody
05-06-2016, 11:46 PM
what about this mate... very popular knife http://www.thebushcraftstore.co.uk/condor-bushlore-knife---handle-choice-1775-p.asp
That is popular, and it might well be brilliant for the job... but is it just me on thinking it's an ugly knife?
Just my opinion, I know , but I think it didn't just fall off the ugly tree ...it looks like it's hit every branch on its way down and then got dragged through the whole forest...

Horse and courses I guess.

Woody
10-06-2016, 07:22 PM
That is popular, and it might well be brilliant for the job... but is it just me on thinking it's an ugly knife?
Just my opinion, I know , but I think it didn't just fall off the ugly tree ...it looks like it's hit every branch on its way down and then got dragged through the whole forest...

Horse and courses I guess.
Please, Mick or/and Shepherd, apologies. I hope my opinion on the condor knife's looks, hasn't killed this thread ...
Apologies for being outspoken .

I'll get my coat ...

mick91
10-06-2016, 07:29 PM
Please, Mick or/and Shepherd, apologies. I hope my opinion on the condor knife's looks, hasn't killed this thread ...
Apologies for being outspoken .

I'll get my coat ...
Haha. Not at all! It's not a nice looking knife to be honest

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shepherd
12-06-2016, 10:40 AM
haha.. no i agree.. its an ugly blade..

mick91
12-06-2016, 11:02 AM
I've decided to put my knife collection to some actual use for once lol. Comparing expensive vs cheap and see if they're worth the money. Might even make it a group thing if anyone fancies some knife perving/abuse and camping :D

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mick91
12-06-2016, 11:08 AM
If only I could explain away a rockstead bowie or Medford seawolf to steph I could do a more thorough test lol

FishyFolk
12-06-2016, 12:42 PM
One option coule be to buy a knife blank from f.ex Enzo, and make your own scales.
I never really liked my Enzo trapper ...but only because the handle is to narrow, as it is designed as a hunting knife, and I need a knife to work on wood.
it gets uncomfortable to work with it.

So am playing with the idea of chopping off the scales and make my own.

mick91
12-06-2016, 12:44 PM
One option coule be to buy a knife blank from f.ex Enzo, and make your own scales.
I never really liked my Enzo trapper ...but only because the handle is to narrow, as it is designed as a hunting knife, and I need a knife to work on wood.
it gets uncomfortable to work with it.

So am playing with the idea of chopping off the scales and make my own.
I've got an enzo trapper somewhere I wasn't a huge fan either. As for scaling my own though the intention of this is an out of the box comparison but ordinarily I would definitely be doing that!

Woody
12-06-2016, 01:10 PM
That would be an interesting demonstration, as I've used a Mora Bushcraft for pretty much everything outdoors including battoning... but have used a friend's F1 and couldn't really see advantage, other that a longer blade and also used a TBS boar from the Bushcraft store and the only advantage is a vanity one because it looks nicer with wooden scales etc. As for performance, I think the old cheap Mora is just as good for most tasks...
But saying that , I do also suffer from the shiny shiney syndrome and can't wait to get my hands on the one you're making me...
I think in this case it'l be different from the Mora range because the shape of handle and wooden feel will enhance the experience... as well as steel quality, craftsmanship and good looks.;)

mick91
12-06-2016, 01:16 PM
That would be an interesting demonstration, as I've used a Mora Bushcraft for pretty much everything outdoors including buttoning... but have used a friend's F1 and couldn't really see advantage, other that a longer blade and also used a TBS boar from the Bushcraft store and the only advantage is a vanity one because it looks nicer with wooden scales etc. As for performance, I think the old cheap Mora is just as good for most tasks...
But saying that , I do also suffer from the shiny shiney syndrome and can't wait to get my hands on the one you're making me...
I think in this case it'l be different from the Mora range because the shape of handle and wooden feel will enhance the experience... as well as looks.;)
You'll find mora are actually very good. I like to think of them as inexpensive rather than cheap. Although for some applications they're limited. Terrible skinners for example. I think with folders you see a much bigger difference price wise. A buck or a Gerber for example you get a good all round knife, or so I thought until I bought a strider SMF lol. Medford preatorian is similar quality tbh just totally bombproof

mick91
12-06-2016, 01:17 PM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160612/a7c8aa35e3329b912fb33726aab003eb.jpg
That's become a firm favourite to be honest

FishyFolk
12-06-2016, 01:25 PM
You'll find mora are actually very good. I like to think of them as inexpensive rather than cheap. Although for some applications they're limited. Terrible skinners for example. I think with folders you see a much bigger difference price wise. A buck or a Gerber for example you get a good all round knife, or so I thought until I bought a strider SMF lol. Medford preatorian is similar quality tbh just totally bombproof

In Norway the Moras are mostly used by builders, carpenters, electricians etc. When the knives get unsharp by being used from everything from stripping electrical wires to
mixing paint, they just trhrow thgem away and replace them. In outdoors activities people give them to kids who set about to destroy them, and last it has a use in sportsfishing...again as a cheap knife
to use for the one time a year some people go fishing. They clean their catch with it, forget to clean them, and they are rusted next time, so they just buy a knew one at the supermarket for 3.99, allong with their milk and bread.

The first time I ever saw som appreciation for these knives was actuyally on this forum, and I was gobsmacked...but now my favourite knife for wood carving is my Mora 911...as that is actually what these knives where designed for in the first place. Poeple have other knives that they use for skinning etc.

mick91
12-06-2016, 01:26 PM
In Norway the Moras are mostly used by builders, carpenters, electricians etc. When the knives get unsharp by being used from everything from stripping electrical wires to
mixing paint, they just trhrow thgem away and replace them. In outdoors activities people give them to kids who set about to destroy them, and last it has a use in sportsfishing...again as a cheap knife
to use for the one time a year some people go fishing. They clean their catch with it, forget to clean them, and they are rusted next time, so they just buy a knew one at the supermarket for 3.99, allong with their milk and bread.

The first time I ever saw som appreciation for these knives was actuyally on this forum, and I was gobsmacked...but now my favourite knife for wood carving is my Mora 911...as that is actually what these knives where designed for in the first place. Poeple have other knives that they use for skinning etc.
Oh I still swear by mora for all kinds of applications to be honest. Razor sharp out of the box and change from £15

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shepherd
12-06-2016, 01:48 PM
In Norway the Moras are mostly used by builders, carpenters, electricians etc. When the knives get unsharp by being used from everything from stripping electrical wires to
mixing paint, they just trhrow thgem away and replace them. In outdoors activities people give them to kids who set about to destroy them, and last it has a use in sportsfishing...again as a cheap knife
to use for the one time a year some people go fishing. They clean their catch with it, forget to clean them, and they are rusted next time, so they just buy a knew one at the supermarket for 3.99, allong with their milk and bread.

The first time I ever saw som appreciation for these knives was actuyally on this forum, and I was gobsmacked...but now my favourite knife for wood carving is my Mora 911...as that is actually what these knives where designed for in the first place. Poeple have other knives that they use for skinning etc.

thats really interesting... iv heard similar stories regarding folding opinels in different countries.

mick91
12-06-2016, 02:30 PM
thats really interesting... iv heard similar stories regarding folding opinels in different countries.

I still fancy an opinel 13 to see if it can be used as a machete haha

Woody
13-06-2016, 01:33 AM
In Norway the Moras are mostly used by builders, carpenters, electricians etc. When the knives get unsharp by being used from everything from stripping electrical wires to
mixing paint, they just trhrow thgem away and replace them. In outdoors activities people give them to kids who set about to destroy them, and last it has a use in sportsfishing...again as a cheap knife
to use for the one time a year some people go fishing. They clean their catch with it, forget to clean them, and they are rusted next time, so they just buy a knew one at the supermarket for 3.99, allong with their milk and bread.

The first time I ever saw som appreciation for these knives was actuyally on this forum, and I was gobsmacked...but now my favourite knife for wood carving is my Mora 911...as that is actually what these knives where designed for in the first place. Poeple have other knives that they use for skinning etc.
That's nuts man, treating them as disposable knives...
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Not quite as crazy as selling the damn things in your local supermarket though [emoji33] .
Can you imagine that in London???

Norway is obviously a very civilised nation and out in the sticks ( remote areas) tools of this nature are seen as such, just tools !
...and not as toys or weapons, like in some cities unfortunately.

As a carpenter , I wouldn't mind wearing one of these on my belt at work and using it on a regular basis( easy sharpening= it would save me a lot of money on stanley knife replacement blades) , however we are in England , and I think my colleagues and new boss would be slightly unnerved if I rolled in with my bushy on my belt... [emoji2]

Rugby tackle and P45 me thinks...
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Or pay rise and free drinks from the lads... [emoji48] hmmm?!


Sorry off topic...

mick91
13-06-2016, 06:08 AM
That's nuts man, treating them as disposable knives...
[emoji43]
Not quite as crazy as selling the damn things in your local supermarket though [emoji33] .
Can you imagine that in London???

Norway is obviously a very civilised nation and out in the sticks ( remote areas) tools of this nature are seen as such, just tools !
...and not as toys or weapons, like in some cities unfortunately.

As a carpenter , I wouldn't mind wearing one of these on my belt at work and using it on a regular basis( easy sharpening= it would save me a lot of money on stanley knife replacement blades) , however we are in England , and I think my colleagues and new boss would be slightly unnerved if I rolled in with my bushy on my belt... [emoji2]

Rugby tackle and P45 me thinks...
[emoji23]

Or pay rise and free drinks from the lads... [emoji48] hmmm?!


Sorry off topic...
It's crazy how different countries view things like that. I know in my employee handbook there's a weapons clause that states all firearms on work premesis must be carried openly and not concealed carry lmao. Myself and another shooting man in there have joked about going in with our shotguns strapped to our backs! That being said with knives I have my EDC with me every day at work and it's never been an issue

FishyFolk
13-06-2016, 07:48 AM
That's nuts man, treating them as disposable knives...
[emoji43]
Not quite as crazy as selling the damn things in your local supermarket though [emoji33] .
Can you imagine that in London???

Norway is obviously a very civilised nation and out in the sticks ( remote areas) tools of this nature are seen as such, just tools !
...and not as toys or weapons, like in some cities unfortunately.

As a carpenter , I wouldn't mind wearing one of these on my belt at work and using it on a regular basis( easy sharpening= it would save me a lot of money on stanley knife replacement blades) , however we are in England , and I think my colleagues and new boss would be slightly unnerved if I rolled in with my bushy on my belt... [emoji2]

Rugby tackle and P45 me thinks...
[emoji23]

Or pay rise and free drinks from the lads... [emoji48] hmmm?!


Sorry off topic...

Here it's unthinkable for construction worker of any kind not to wear one, carried the way it was intended...on a button, at all times. Even while shopping at the supermarket if they are still in their work wear.
And the knife will be supplied by his company as part of his tools. That said, carrying a knife, or anything that can be used as a weapon actually in public is illegal, but not if you have an "honoroable" intention of doing so. You can even pick up a Mora at the gas station. And they are so dirt cheap that for most of us they are just a disposable knife to be thrown away and replaced when it gets unsharp.
The same goes for traditional looking scandinavian knives, if you dress right you will get away with it. So if you wear a Helle knife on you belt, dressed for fishing or hiking, and have to make stop at the supermarket, nonody will react if you walk around with your knife on.
You may get some strange looks if it is a more tacticool looking knife though. And non of this applies to the Oslo...they are more paranoid down there.
And not if you are in ordinary clothes, though you may get away with wearing a leatherman tool, or a folder on the belt then too. But be prepared fro questions, and maybe confiscation if you do not have a valid reason for it...like I use it for work, and forgot to take it off :-)

OakAshandThorn
15-06-2016, 05:52 PM
If you're into puukkos, you can find some really fancy, quality blades from makers such as Ahti, Martiini, Wood Jewel, Kellam, and Karesuando :D.

Woody
18-06-2016, 05:31 PM
Hello Mick! I think your inbox is full..

mick91
18-06-2016, 05:32 PM
Hello Mick! I think your inbox is full..
Cleared now mate!